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A Deck with potential. (Made by a Nab though) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28788.msg367709#msg367709
« on: July 18, 2011, 05:34:55 am »
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My first original deck, Took some tweaking to be good but It really cheap. This unupped version wins consistently against AI5 in the trainer. The Upped version is yet to lose against an FG(Only 9 games though(am lazy I know)).

No strategy really it might take some time to get up and running with the sanctuaries, You won't be able to dmg healing decks until you start reversing the Skeles; I get some really fun stuff. This is IMPORTANT: Only play the Crusader when you have the eternity up, That way if anything goes wrong you can send him back to the deck until it's safe to come out.

Am sure this deck has weaknesses, I think rushing would crush it if unlucky; But otherwise this might be able to beat the unbeatable gods..

Edit. Anything with a pulvy will crush this thing... Needs some form of defense against that...

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Re: A Deck with potential. (Made by a Nab though) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28788.msg367744#msg367744
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2011, 07:22:05 am »
I don't see the potential,sorry.
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Re: A Deck with potential. (Made by a Nab though) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28788.msg367778#msg367778
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2011, 09:37:32 am »
I like the deck idea.  Using graveyard for skeles and reverse time them with eternity.  It seems like it would be way too slow though.  It would take a while to get sanctuary out, and take a while to kill opponent creatures for skeles, and you need to get lucky to have eternity to use on skeles.  If you are having the success you claim to be then gratz.

I would think a duo might be more efficient here than a trio though.  If you have SoG and more eternity, then I'd go with:
-2 Light Pillar, -1 Crusader, -5 Sanctuary, - Mark of Light
+1 Time Factory, +2 eternity, +5 SoG, + Mark of Death/Time.

Would give better consistency I think.

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Re: A Deck with potential. (Made by a Nab though) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28788.msg367783#msg367783
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2011, 09:50:50 am »
You have 1 Eternity,what happens if it is the last card?
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Re: A Deck with potential. (Made by a Nab though) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28788.msg372034#msg372034
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2011, 01:46:44 am »
Trio decks used to be almost impossible to play. With only pillars to fuel the quanta generation, balancing them was very tough. However with the inclusion of Pendulums, we now a solid way of supporting 3 types of quanta.

What I tried to do with your deck is keep it as close to the same as I possibly could. Pretty much the only thing I did was mess with the way you got quanta. Recently, I've been messing around with trio decks and figuring how to get their quanta just right.

Your deck does exactly what it should, killing creatures, while healing. Which fuels your Graveyards that you can rewind into a random creature.

Here's the deck with the mods.. test it out and see if the changes make any difference.
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Other possible variants would be to add some Quantum Pillars so that you can use the ability of some of your creatures. Another option could be to drop :light entirely and go with another element.

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Re: A Deck with potential. (Made by a Nab though) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28788.msg372075#msg372075
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2011, 03:43:11 am »
I was going to suggest pendulums, but majofa already did. :D
Anyway, an alternative to :light is :earth , with slower healing power of Stone Skin, but you can protect your permanents.
It takes a bit of a combo to get the damage going, and there is no permanent control, but the healing and the creature control should take care of the worries. Could you post the upgraded version? It sounds good.

Oh, and in the upgraded version you can heal with SoG and power the protect artifacts with a mark of earth.

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Re: A Deck with potential. (Made by a Nab though) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28788.msg372107#msg372107
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2011, 05:44:10 am »
Like majofa has said, trios are very hard to use when only pillars fuelling your quanta pool.
pendulms are  a very good alternative for pillars in trios.
majofa has posted a deck for you , it's a very good choice , and i like it.
thing is, you have almost no protection, you'll most likely will get outrushed , 3 plauge and few skull shields and sanctuaries can't stop a very fast rush.
i think you should add couple of bonewalls and more plauges , more defense benefit for you from plauges, and alternative defense if you're getting rushed very fast.
i'd remove one crusader from majofa's deck, and add few bonewalls instead of vultures , that's my opinion any how.
so, basically , add pendulms , add few bonewalls, maybe few more plagues , and making it alittle bigger will help you with outdeck, and will allow you to set up defense easier.
good luck with improving your deck, regards.

here's a small sample of what you can do :
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Re: A Deck with potential. (Made by a Nab though) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28788.msg373229#msg373229
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2011, 06:17:08 pm »

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Since the death cards in the deck cost a lot to play overall, using death as your mark, and pendulums of light and time is a good way to go.  You will get more than enough death.  I added in another eternity, because 2 provides a better chance to draw one.  Another crusader, just in case the eternity is destroyed or one of the crusaders die.

Unupped boneyards are cheap, so more is better for a deck like this.  This way you can use 1 plague on 2 or 3 creatures but produce a lot more skeletons and save the other plagues for your bone walls.  I took out a sanctuary, just because unupped sanctuaries and unupped crusaders was too costly with the light quanta production in the deck.

40 cards is very viable as well.
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By adding in 2 more time pendulums and 5 reverse times, you now have a bit of creature control if you need it, and if you get some skeletons out fast but have yet to draw an eternity, you can (hopefully) get yourself a big creature by using a reverse time on a skeleton.  Also I removed a crusader and a light pendulum and threw in 2 more eternities, with a 40 card deck you want to draw one as early as possible.


 

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