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Re: A Better Use For Your Third Ball https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17309.msg222942#msg222942
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2010, 04:34:17 pm »
I like the idea. would replace all the golems with phoenixes though, since you are using light mark. Ive gotten 6 turn wins with the deck, but i would take the deathstalker out for something else. I never find the 2 poison too helpful, as the buffs on it can be used on something else. Maybe a scarab? you could buff it then devour. Chrysoara or Mind flayer could work too.
Yeah, I only have 1 golem in the newest version. Thx for reaffirming the fix, though.

Scarab: don't really want to have something uses more than 2 quanta, devour is :gravity per devour and I have a momentum that I think helps with getting sparks/deathstalker out. If I take out the momentum, It's pretty reasonable.

Could probably replace deathstalker with scarab and then momentum with one of the following, though:

Arsenic

Chrysaora: I don't think I should replace the deathstalker with this because the deathstalker produces more poison.

Mind flayer: the lobo is always nice and can serverely cripple some rushes. I can lobo the shriekers, then devour them with my blessed oty for example. decks with growers, ablazers, lycans, phoenix-immo, etc. would all fall under my mighty mind flayer that i'll probably never get when facing the decks i need mindflayer most ^^;;

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Re: A Better Use For Your Third Ball https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17309.msg222946#msg222946
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2010, 04:37:53 pm »
Here's what I'm testing:

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Having more than one source of poison makes it easier to draw them. I prefer neurotoxin because it stacks faster, but this is really preference

I also replaced one blessing with another momentum. Sometimes momentum is preferable, especially for the scorpions.

Last thing I did was replace most of the golems with phoenixes. Again, sometimes golems are preferable because it makes more sense to buff them over phoenixes if you don't have spare sparks or scorpions.
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Re: A Better Use For Your Third Ball https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17309.msg222951#msg222951
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2010, 04:47:45 pm »
I am not argueing with you in the least, i was suggesting. Also yes i have had a short :light running with some draws, so i believe 4 blessing with what devans posted is better, although i would try to fit an adrenaline in there since blessing + adrenaline = 12 damage in 1 turn. Last thing don't contridict yourself when you tell me not to fit an arsenic in there, then tell baily you can.

I'm still going with only about 4-5 sparks since you only need 1-2 to get the start up, then you immo phoenixs. So i would take out 1-2 sparks maybe +1 adrenaline/arsenic and +1 phoenix.
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Re: A Better Use For Your Third Ball https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17309.msg222954#msg222954
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2010, 04:54:35 pm »
Here's what I'm testing:

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 55q 55q 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fa 5fa 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5rt 5rt 61p 61p 61p 61p 61p 61p
Having more than one source of poison makes it easier to draw them. I prefer neurotoxin because it stacks faster, but this is really preference

I also replaced one blessing with another momentum. Sometimes momentum is preferable, especially for the scorpions.

Last thing I did was replace most of the golems with phoenixes. Again, sometimes golems are preferable because it makes more sense to buff them over phoenixes if you don't have spare sparks or scorpions.
Hm...I thought it was proven that deathstalker stacks poison faster than dunes, but you're right, it's just preference.
I'm a bit scared of having two 3-quanta cards of the same element in the deck, though so I would replace at least one with a deathstalker.

Hm, it looks fun, maybe I'll try it when I have nothing else to do.

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This deck isn't slow. (almost) 5 turn win. And it's possible, because ai bolted a phoenix.

I am not argueing with you in the least, i was suggesting. Also yes i have had a short :light running with some draws, so i believe 4 blessing with what devans posted is better, although i would try to fit an adrenaline in there since blessing + adrenaline = 12 damage in 1 turn. Last thing don't contridict yourself when you tell me not to fit an arsenic in there, then tell baily you can.

I'm still going with only about 4-5 sparks since you only need 1-2 to get the start up, then you immo phoenixs. So i would take out 1-2 sparks maybe +1 adrenaline/arsenic and +1 phoenix.
Never said you were arguing, I was just trying to prove you false because I don't believe you're right. ^^

But what will you adrenaline? Not much in the deck has 0 attack unless you add a few more dune scorps/deathstalkers

And lastly, i did not contradict myself. You said you wanted to replace a spark for an arsenic. You would also have to take out the deathstalker. I believed that that wasn't good for the deck because deathstalker costs 2 :death and having 2 2-quanta cards would make the deck death heavy. So I chose deathstalker over arsenic, and would rather keep both the deathstalker and the spark in because of the blessings. Your suggestion was to make the deck do damage faster, and I believed those changes would not make the deck do more damage.

baily, on the other hand, wanted to replace the deathstalker with a scarab for CONTROL. it does this. so it was a viable option to consider. Then, i didn't have a 2 :death deathstalker in the deck, so I could add an arsenic as a death card in teh rainbow

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Re: A Better Use For Your Third Ball https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17309.msg222983#msg222983
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2010, 05:39:25 pm »
After more testing, i like -1 momentum -1 stalker for +1chrysoara +1 Scarab. Chrysoara does less damage then deathstalker, but you can take out the momentum and plus, you can always immolate it after you run dry on death quantum. Scarab+1 blessing is a 5/4 creature that can get rid of those annoying maxwells and damage dealers. i dislike dune scorp because it costs 3 time. Right now, im thinking about taking out the spirit  because it can conflict with a chrysoara, although not much. May take out spirit for another scarab, a fog shield, a horned frog or a graviton fire eater.

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Re: A Better Use For Your Third Spark [36% Fire] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17309.msg371727#msg371727
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2011, 01:50:33 pm »
Bump. Poll added. I opted for control because you can't get very fast with an unupped blessed spark idea..

 

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