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Anti-Lava Rush PvP deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20778.msg264231#msg264231
« on: February 04, 2011, 07:08:50 pm »
I got this idea because of the new gnome gemfinder change. I already loathe playing against lava rushes but this might even make them more common and fierce.

First of all, I never made a PvP deck before, so go easy on me. Secondly, I am aware that this deck is a counter to just one other type of deck, it's not build for farming T50 but build to counter Lava rushes. Thirdly, it is quite heavily based on Jmdt's healbow, so I'm not claiming to be very original.

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The idea is as follows:
- Basic damage dealers, Lava Rush doesn't have any CC.
- Some healing to survive the first damage the opponent pumps out.
- PA'ed Firebucklers to prevent new golems from surviving at all.
- Lightnings to kill golems who outgrow the fire shield.
- A rewind wich serves the same purpose, to rewind the strongest golem.
- Discord to screw with his quanta.
- 31 cards to prevent decking out....

So my questions are:
- Would this be a good counter to golem rushes?
- Do I have enough healing to survive?
- Do I have enough damage to finish the job?
- Is this deck viable against other decks at all? In other words: would a deck like this stand any chance in T500 or something similar at all?

Once again, this is the first time I try a PvP deck and I've got no experience at PvP in this game.

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Re: Anti-Lava Rush PvP deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20778.msg264234#msg264234
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2011, 07:15:42 pm »
I've played something similar, and it wasn't close to enough. Firstly, Destroyer rushes pack Explosions, and AI plays perms when it doesn't have PA, so I'd skip perms altogether. Firestorm is a great card for crushing Destroyer rushes though, and Discord is meh compared to Pandemonium. Black Holes on the other hand can be very annoying and gives you good healing. With all of the mentioned cards taken out, you can increase CC -and- speed.

Why am I saying this when I'm running a Destroyer rush for T50 right now? I actually have no idea.
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Re: Anti-Lava Rush PvP deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20778.msg264241#msg264241
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2011, 07:40:18 pm »
Well I'm not in T50 (yet) so don't worry :D

Anyway, I just tested this against Spike in PvP. Basically this is what it comes down to:
- It get's totally crushed by other PvP decks.
- Even if playing against a lava rush, slow fire buckler will screw you up.
- Chaos Seed or Blessing will eat you alive.
- It's hard to get all key cards, you need the Nova's, PA, Fire Buckler, some sort of CC and damage out. Not happening...

Thanks for the tips Hig, I'm going to work on this some more :D

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Re: Anti-Lava Rush PvP deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20778.msg264275#msg264275
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2011, 08:38:33 pm »
With skull bucklers new buff you might think about that when 1.27 goes live. It is cheap and if they quint thier destroyer ( if they play quit ) then it can still be effected.
Hmmmm take out 1 discord for a rewind? Immolation decks only have so much quanta if they are no land stompy so rewind can reset lava golems def and they may not be able to play it right away. :)

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Re: Anti-Lava Rush PvP deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20778.msg264629#msg264629
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2011, 08:14:28 am »
If you want great succes in PvP2 please try this deck:

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Re: Anti-Lava Rush PvP deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20778.msg264654#msg264654
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2011, 09:28:53 am »
If you want great succes in PvP2 please try this deck:

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I remember facing you with that. I would have won but you put out a bonewall at very low hp and ended up stalling me 1 turn then owning me.

 

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