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[Rainbow] FLOODING your dreams with NIGHTMARES throughout ETERNITY. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54454.msg1135170#msg1135170
« on: May 05, 2014, 12:28:53 pm »
Eternity+SoG is always a nice deck out set up that I've enjoyed. I was trying to build a nightmare bravery deck, cause they never seem to work mechanically. Why? Obviously because bravery needs opponents slots to be open so you can draw, and nightmares fills up their hand. I ditched bravery in this deck out deck, although I still think it could be useful if I moved away from the time based rainbow. Anyway here's the deck.

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Re: [Rainbow] FLOODING your dreams with NIGHTMARES throughout ETERNITY. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54454.msg1135171#msg1135171
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2014, 01:30:09 pm »
You need 4 quantum towers to keep inundation up;
this means it'll take untill late game to get this defense.

Considering this is the way to keep your walls up (together with nightmare),
you'll need a way to get it faster...

Also, what do you want to rewind?
you have not enough quanta to rewind nymphs or otyughs;
rewinding the opponent's creatures prevents decking him out.

be quick- time is quanta.

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Re: [Rainbow] FLOODING your dreams with NIGHTMARES throughout ETERNITY. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54454.msg1135190#msg1135190
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2014, 05:37:02 pm »
rewinding the opponents strongest creatures so they get hit by flooding. I think I need a ray of light to nightmare and rewind though. I can nightmare and silence if i need HP past sogs. So the mid-late game bone defense is excused their.
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Re: [Rainbow] FLOODING your dreams with NIGHTMARES throughout ETERNITY. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54454.msg1135304#msg1135304
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2014, 09:57:29 am »
rewinding the opponents strongest creatures so they get hit by flooding. I think I need a ray of light to nightmare and rewind though. I can nightmare and silence if i need HP past sogs. So the mid-late game bone defense is excused their.
I still don't get why would you rewind an opponent's creature when flooding is up. There are 2 possible options:
  • rewinded creature was in flooded area: therefore it would have died anyway, so it didn't need rewinding.
  • rewinded creature was in the safe area: you rewind it, an empty place is generated in the safe area, the opponent summons his creature back to the safe area the next turn.

Or if your opponents are AIs, please mention that. K thx, no offence intended ;)
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Re: [Rainbow] FLOODING your dreams with NIGHTMARES throughout ETERNITY. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54454.msg1135314#msg1135314
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2014, 11:32:12 am »
My opponents are ais. Flooding --> reverse time ---> nightmare same turn means their strongest will go in flooded zone.
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Re: [Rainbow] FLOODING your dreams with NIGHTMARES throughout ETERNITY. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54454.msg1135316#msg1135316
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2014, 12:14:30 pm »
My opponents are ais. Flooding --> reverse time ---> nightmare same turn means their strongest will go in flooded zone.
You have to nightmare something weak and affordable, or else the  new empty field slot will be occupied by the strong creature again. If the opponent has less than 5 creatures, it depends on the situation whether it's worth nightmaring or not.
The nightmared creature has to be affordable, because if you nightmare either your Otyugh or Golden Nymphs, but the opponent doesn't have the quanta to play them, he'll just play back his rewinded creature.

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Re: [Rainbow] FLOODING your dreams with NIGHTMARES throughout ETERNITY. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54454.msg1135318#msg1135318
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2014, 12:53:08 pm »
yeah, and usually they do have that creature. Ray of light is defenitly worth mentioning.
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Re: [Rainbow] FLOODING your dreams with NIGHTMARES throughout ETERNITY. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54454.msg1135330#msg1135330
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2014, 03:30:42 pm »
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using RoL ... if you can actually get this running , a nice little EM after a short nap... solid defense if u dont get rushed too quickly
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Re: [Rainbow] FLOODING your dreams with NIGHTMARES throughout ETERNITY. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54454.msg1135335#msg1135335
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2014, 03:54:13 pm »
Youd have to save 1 nightmare to ensure EM. I suggest adding in a heal. 1 mirror shield should be suffice.
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Re: [Rainbow] FLOODING your dreams with NIGHTMARES throughout ETERNITY. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54454.msg1135337#msg1135337
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2014, 04:06:23 pm »

First i totally quote Submachine.

After i've tested this deck (nymphs were unupped, but it's the same), i can state it has another big issue: it deals a very low damage.

It's fast thanks to hourglasses and nymphs, but only 3 creatures and an eternity are too few to deal damage, and your quanta production + high cost creature don't allow you to prevent deckout.

Moreover, flooding is useless until you've out at least 4 QT, while a lonely Oty is an hard CC too weak.

And last but not least, i see well that flooding + bone walls could be a nice combo, but vs AI3 i menaged that combo only once over 10-15 games.

Conclusion: a crappy deck that deals a very low damage and exploits a combo that it's very hard to run and usually it comes at the end of the match (most of the times SoG's keep you alive); it reminds me to a more weird and unbalanced version of Chapuz Ragequit Factory
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Re: [Rainbow] FLOODING your dreams with NIGHTMARES throughout ETERNITY. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54454.msg1135361#msg1135361
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2014, 07:37:19 pm »
Heh. Looks like I posted it in the deck help section not the deck idea place. So you're conclusion wasn't necessary. Please keep this as deck HELP. ;) Thanks.

Btw, I tested it in bronze and got the combo out a modest 70% of the time.
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