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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg470474#msg470474
« Reply #192 on: March 13, 2012, 07:19:06 pm »
I thought that at least the BoL + Sky Blitz + Fractal combo already exists?
Well, not having much time today I might try a deck tomorrow (if I remember =P)
I don't know just how common BoL + Sky Blitz + Fractal is but I know I tried it once. I ended up finding that having my hand get clogged up meant it was inconsistent and slow. Maybe I just got the balance of fractals and blitzs wrong but I ended up moving to a BoL + Fractal deck reinforced with recluse which lead me to a Fractal + Recluse + Dimension shield HB farmer with something like an 80% win rate upped although I only did about 20 games. Yeah, I ramble.

Wait, is this for level 3 or 4+ because for level 3, 6 blitzed balls is 60 damage, maybe try dropping the fractals, taking damselflys and going down the air route with something like:
6 BoL
6 Damselfly
6 Blitz
15 Wind Tower
3 Eagle Eye
The Eagles + damselfies might give it consistency while still allowing fast wins.

Going down a general blitz route, I have vage memories of 2 versions:
6 Blitz
6Damselfly
6 Elite Wyrm
12 Wind Tower/3 Wind Dragon + 9 Wind Tower

6 Blitz
6 Wind Dragon
6 Damselfly
12 Wind Tower

Next time I'm on a pc I can test some or try to see if I've got a code and stats saved somewhere in my mess of saved notes, spreadsheets and screenshots.

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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg470537#msg470537
« Reply #193 on: March 13, 2012, 10:57:40 pm »
that combo is not new there are a good number of decks based on that for a long time... now what is new is that shard of freedom that is what you should be working on :P

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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg470711#msg470711
« Reply #194 on: March 14, 2012, 09:49:47 am »
that combo is not new there are a good number of decks based on that for a long time... now what is new is that shard of freedom that is what you should be working on :P
I don't like this new shard... it takes up a considerable amount of card slots to be effective.
Anyways, it might be a good addition to mono-darkness rush with vampires and gargoyles.
PVE shouldn't be all about copying a deck code and converting time into electrum, score, and potentially rares.
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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg470801#msg470801
« Reply #195 on: March 14, 2012, 04:14:33 pm »
I dont seem to have access to these shards, are they supposed to be in trainer or beta? Zanz implied they are available currently.

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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg470808#msg470808
« Reply #196 on: March 14, 2012, 04:33:58 pm »
I dont seem to have access to these shards, are they supposed to be in trainer or beta? Zanz implied they are available currently.
Since you've been out for so long, i'll fill you in.
SoG, SoD, SoR has been berfed, and can now works unupped as of 1.29.
SoSa, SoSe, SoP, SoV has been released in 1.29. If you don't have them, you can check the trainer to test it.
SoF, SoBe, SoI, SoFr will be added in 1.30. Currently they are buyable in the trainer bazaar.
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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg471130#msg471130
« Reply #197 on: March 15, 2012, 06:53:55 pm »
that combo is not new there are a good number of decks based on that for a long time... now what is new is that shard of freedom that is what you should be working on :P
Ive been messing around with this:

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Its been 6/7 turning Ai3 and even had an EM but my luck means i keep getting stupidly awful hands. When it goes right its great fun to see the ai die to a horde of 2 strength creatures.

Edit: blanks are shards of freedom

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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg471133#msg471133
« Reply #198 on: March 15, 2012, 07:14:14 pm »
that combo is not new there are a good number of decks based on that for a long time... now what is new is that shard of freedom that is what you should be working on :P
Ive been messing around with this:

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Its been 6/7 turning Ai3 and even had an EM but my luck means i keep getting stupidly awful hands. When it goes right its great fun to see the ai die to a horde of 2 strength creatures.

Edit: blanks are shards of freedom
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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg471155#msg471155
« Reply #199 on: March 15, 2012, 09:32:27 pm »
I'm only getting 1-2 starting towers and my luck means I struggle for mana. This deck is ridiculously fragile to plague/rain of fire but it's fun. I assume freedoms stack as I do see an increase in frequency with multiple out, if that's the case then a 40 card quick-draw time deck using freedom + gotp + dragons could deal mass damage to hb/false gods. Or going along the time idea... Chaos seed+freedomed déjà vu rush may be interesting. Something like that could run off nova + time mark eg:
Mark of Time
6 Elite déjà bi
6 nova
6 shard of freedom
6 chaos seed
3 improved blessing
2 rage elixir
Vampire stilleto
Although I imagine that would need serious refinement I've had 3 turn wins with a similar deck.

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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg471379#msg471379
« Reply #200 on: March 16, 2012, 08:57:30 am »
I'm only getting 1-2 starting towers and my luck means I struggle for mana. This deck is ridiculously fragile to plague/rain of fire but it's fun. I assume freedoms stack as I do see an increase in frequency with multiple out, if that's the case then a 40 card quick-draw time deck using freedom + gotp + dragons could deal mass damage to hb/false gods. Or going along the time idea... Chaos seed+freedomed déjà vu rush may be interesting. Something like that could run off nova + time mark eg:
Mark of Time
6 Elite déjà bi
6 nova
6 shard of freedom
6 chaos seed
3 improved blessing
2 rage elixir
Vampire stilleto
Although I imagine that would need serious refinement I've had 3 turn wins with a similar deck.
One question concerning SoFre: how does it work with epinephrine'd creatures?
Epinephrine gives more chance for it to proc...
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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg471385#msg471385
« Reply #201 on: March 16, 2012, 09:29:00 am »
I'm only getting 1-2 starting towers and my luck means I struggle for mana. This deck is ridiculously fragile to plague/rain of fire but it's fun. I assume freedoms stack as I do see an increase in frequency with multiple out, if that's the case then a 40 card quick-draw time deck using freedom + gotp + dragons could deal mass damage to hb/false gods. Or going along the time idea... Chaos seed+freedomed déjà vu rush may be interesting. Something like that could run off nova + time mark eg:
Mark of Time
6 Elite déjà bi
6 nova
6 shard of freedom
6 chaos seed
3 improved blessing
2 rage elixir
Vampire stilleto
Although I imagine that would need serious refinement I've had 3 turn wins with a similar deck.
One question concerning SoFre: how does it work with epinephrine'd creatures?
Epinephrine gives more chance for it to proc...
yes it does, each separate attack has a chance to do a critical hit

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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg471448#msg471448
« Reply #202 on: March 16, 2012, 03:35:49 pm »
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My attempt to fit adrena-air with shards of freedom, so far its been very fragile and i resorted to placing a mitosis in there for is i lost adrenad flies. It did give me a 5 turn em and its probably about level with the fractal version, probably more frustrating due to bad draws and fragility, so its not too bad. I think trying a pheonixtal with SoFre might work well.

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Re: [group] The Elemental Engineers https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36819.msg472115#msg472115
« Reply #203 on: March 18, 2012, 09:06:52 pm »
Make a good PvP deck that counters itself.

 

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