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[Poker Alho]

i was working on a singularity OTK even after the buff they got where they can AM themselves to prevent usage of Sosac i might post it here after im finished with it

I'm curious, how do you plan to stall without SoSa and only 6 sundials?

Using the rarely used SoP!! thank you for asking

The 1 turn delay SoP causes on your creatures that many people hate, is now an awesome card included in the deck i am making, giving you a total of 12 turns of stalling your singularities. Problem is, SoP doesnt stall the other deck's creatures so you have to make a deck around that with great stalling power and survivability

Ok off topic, but wouldn't SoP stop your singulrities from multiplying?

No, only stop them from attacking, even when they have adrenaline

[zhangvict]

Omg I must have forgot! I must have ditched SoP for some other reason. Anther problem I found is that it increases the atk of the singularities (antimatter + 1 = less atk) and make it necessary to stall even more when you already only have 12 turns.

EDIT: Ahh I did some more testing, and adrenalized vampire singularities overcome SoP very easily and kill you ask well (

[Poker Alho]

Omg I must have forgot. I must have ditched SoP for some other reason. Anther problem I found is that it increases the atk of the singularities (antimatter + 1 = less atk) and make it necessary to stall even more when you already only have 12 turns.

true, but in the end that side effect can be ignored and remeber that singularities can also boost themselves to have an even more negative attack

EDIT: the deck i am making is not easy to play at all, 12 turns are 12 SAFE turns, you can have more if you can take the hit from the first singularity and if it doesnt PU itself right from the start you can endure even more turns without using sundial or SoP (also remember that the deck i am building is merely a prototype with lots of issues)

[Poker Alho]

I decided it was time to show the deck i was working on (remember, its only a prototype to test a concept, so be gentle with it)

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Its a pretty big one although it has great drawing power to keep chaining dials and SoP

AM, turtle shield and SoG for stall and to increase the turns you can keep up with singularities, like the first or second turn it comes out

EDIT: better to try and write a little guide on how to play the deck:

1- you can change to unnuped sundials the time quanta is fine and it wont mess with mulligan

2-dont try to stall the moment you have a singularity out... if you can take the hit, then take it

3-draw your cards accordingly- draw so you always have a card to stall your singularities and not more than that so you dont deckout

4-always play an SoP over a sundial if you are able to survive the other deck's wave of attack


Its not an easy deck to play, requires a bit of instinct,luck and math to work out and as it is now its still prone to many things but i guess its a start

[Mathematistic]

I decided it was time to show the deck i was working on (remember, its only a prototype to test a concept, so be gentle with it)

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Its a pretty big one although it has great drawing power to keep chaining dials and SoP

AM, turtle shield and SoG for stall and to increase the turns you can keep up with singularities, like the first or second turn it comes out

EDIT: better to try and write a little guide on how to play the deck:

1- you can change to unnuped sundials the time quanta is fine and it wont mess with mulligan

2-dont try to stall the moment you have a singularity out... if you can take the hit, then take it

3-draw your cards accordingly- draw so you always have a card to stall your singularities and not more than that so you dont deckout

4-always play an SoP over a sundial if you are able to survive the other deck's wave of attack


Its not an easy deck to play, requires a bit of instinct,luck and math to work out and as it is now its still prone to many things but i guess its a start

Singularity spam with chimera that then becomes antimattered? sounds interesting. The more CP is cast on the singularities, the more negative their attack becomes... well, but, singularity won't be standalone. We can generate a max of 5 of them only with 6 SNs I guess.

Edit: Wait what? The ??? is SoP?! Sorry... but doesn't SoP increases singularity attack (which is bad)? Given you have so many leftover from SNs, I think wardens can do...

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My try, might not be as good, but 1-2 AM for chimera is enough IMO.

[ralouf]

Singularity also duplicate themselve if I understood it correctly

[Mathematistic]

Singularity also duplicate themselve if I understood it correctly

Yes, so, in case it got vampired, guard it to take less damage. Alternately, sundials allow them to duplicate while not attacking at all.

[Poker Alho]

Singularity also duplicate themselve if I understood it correctly

Yes, so, in case it got vampired, guard it to take less damage. Alternately, sundials allow them to duplicate while not attacking at all.

yup singularities duplicate... and altough SoP "reduces" the potencial attack from your singularities, it doesnt affect that much to be considered in the end

[Gandora]

Hey everyone, long time no see 

I'm very busy with my studying right now, so I'm rarely online.
Anyway, I took some spare minutes to try some ideas that came to my mind.
But it seems that I'm completely out of practice... =P

However, I tried some skeleton builds (which don't work too well). But this is a group to help each other, and so I ask here for advice on how to
improve the following decks:

     trio.
Deck 1

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Not sure if take out the tower or a sky blitz, so I made it 31. Often bad draws (wrong tower/monster combination) but can speed up with sky blitz even with slow starts.
 
Duo versions of the one before:
 
Deck 2

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Now here I had a strange idea of Sky Blitzing Forest Spirits:
Deck 3

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The Spirits are unupped because this way you only need one pend in the starting hand to play it.
Last but not least, a combination I personally have never seen before:
Deck 4

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Maybe have Pends and Towers are better but I didn't mind to figure out the best way to split them up. Anyway, strengthen your Demons with CP and support their ability with OE.
Sky Blitz to finish your enemy completely.

[Dm]

Amazing work as usual, Gandora. On the first deck I think that dropping the Phoenixes and the fire towers for simple Rage Elixirs are better - Not only for CC but for Archangel Buffing.

The second deck is nice, but I'd personally change one Solar Buckler for a Holy Light (Un-upgraded not to mess with mulligan) - Simple EM'ing factors.

The third deck has a lot of modifications. I'd personally upgrade the dragons and change one or two pillars for Cremations (Simply Bursting, or giving 1 extra Air. General Disco Protection.)

Third deck, I'd probably want to add Pufferfishes instead of the Permafrost shields, or maybe Ice Dragons - Pufferfishes have that skill for 1 that is a neat CC, plus a 3 Attack sweet spot for Epinephrine; and Ice Dragons are just hitters.

On the fourth one, although off theme, I think that a Wyrm or two would fit Nicely. (CP + Dive + Sky Blitz = Omgwtfbbq)

[eaglgenes101]

Could someone test and refine that Poseidon deck I asked for earlier?

[Dm]

Could someone test and refine that Poseidon deck I asked for earlier?

Can you repost it? I'll do my best, although I am not a engineer officially.