[Deck Series] Crying Elements

[willng3]

Crying Spirit

by willng3

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  is a rush. There are a few options here: Spirits, Frogs, or Scorpions. I chose Spirits because they are more flexible. You can grow them to 3|3 + adrenaline for max damage, or just continue to grow them if you don't have an early Nymph.

I tried a similar deck yesterday against the Arena and I have a bit of input here that you might find useful.  Firstly, I think the 6 Nymph's Tears might be excessive for this deck considering you don't really have too many targets to make spamming Adrenaline worthwhile.  Forest Spirits also outgrow that beneficial damage boost fairly quickly and you'll want to do that to make them more resistant to CC than usual for obvious reasons.  Personally I think this is a bit better for PvP purposes:

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I like the overall feel of this deck a bit more.  I didn't remove the Druidic Staffs after testing because I thought they were extremely useful.  Ice Shield in an unupped atmosphere is good, but I've found that an army of Squids can oftentimes prove more useful.  The fact that you can continually reuse the Squid's ability to prevent the Freeze turn counter from decreasing is something else that you can take advantage of.  They're not the best Adrenaline targets, but they can be turned into damage torpedoes as well.  If you're interested in more PvP-like atmospheres then this mod might be something to look into for more ideas.

[Bhlewos]

I tried out the Gravity deck and it works pretty well. The biggest concern, as with most unupped Gravity decks, is the speed. I often couldn't get my Nymphs out quick enough for denial -- and by the time I did, I had either gotten out my heavy hitters with the Accelerated Armagios, or lost to overwhelming rushes -- or in one case, denial from my opponent.

Switching to Water Pends for that faster one turn was something I considered for a second before realizing how dumb that idea was (no way to summon Nymphs), and I didn't want to simply use upped cards instead, so I tried switching out the Pillars for even more Pends.

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I thought it might increase vulnerability to EQ, but I actually didn't see much of a difference -- probably because most decks (at least those I've encountered) in PvP 1 don't go the denial route. The fastest I managed was a third turn Nymph, which is probably the fastest you can go unupped, barring incredible luck.

The strategy itself is pretty fun. Armagios get really strong really quickly (though beware the dreaded Reverse Time), and the Nymphs, if you get them out early enough, can kill (if rainbow) or at least slow them down (if mono/duo). Again, speed is the biggest and only major concern, and I imagine once you up the cards (specifically the Pillars/Pends), you can go a lot faster.

[ZephyrPhantom]

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I like the decks you've done here, Vineroz - Nymphs don't usually get a lot of time in the lower level spotlight, and your decks show they can pack a punch.

Trying your deck, I found it's a bit slow to get out damage - I usually focused on getting the trident out for a quanta lock, and then playing the shriekers late game. It's a solid strategy, but I think that enemies that pack a lot of CC or some denial can really hurt it in that case.  With Quantum Indexing, your deck appears to use too much excess Earth quantum, which I decided to tweak around with, and got this:

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I've added more Pendulums to balance out the lack of Water quantum/excess of Earth quantum you sometimes may get - the Wardens help cover any harmful creatures like Steam Machines and Lava Golem. The Earthquakes can help you come out early and ahead in case you fail to draw Tridents or Pendulums to support the tridents. You could also consider swapping the Shriekers for Steel Golems or Earth Dragons if you're concerned about lots of CC - the original version seems perfect to swap 1-3 shriekers for 1-3 dragons.

Hope this helps!

[RavingRabbid]

I ran some tests with Crying Spirit.
What I got was the idea to make it a bit faster, but seeing as it couldn't keep up the other rushes, I switched to a more PvP-y format. Nymph Tears cost 7 each, and usually they might clog up your hand, so I switched some to Squid.
After various tweaks and edits, my final idea was this deck:

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Looks like will already suggested something almost identical. Duh. Great minds think alike.

It overconsumes Water quanta, thought, so I might suggest switching some Life Pends to Water Pillar/Pends. For upgrading purposes, the priority would go to squid, then Pends, and then the rest.

Another options might be using Blue Crawlers/Horned Frogs. Both of those are 3|3, which is the perfect adrenaline target. It still is a bit slow for being a rush, so the PvP Route is the way to go with this deck
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When I saw Crying Crawler, I remembered the deck I used in the Trials Finals. I love this surprise tactic, I seriously love it.
I like the idea of bolts to add, but those make the deck fatter, and so the combo is harder to set. The deck is quanta starved, thought.
Here I tried to add something to the basic concept. You can now hope more in a hope, and keep your quanta better. A possible add could be a Reflective Shield for the final blow.
I ran some test, and it worked quite well, the base deck works quite well. It even slayed some halfbloods. What a nice and lovely deck, with a lovely concept.
Upgraded, it works waaaaaaaaay better.

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Here you can see the small edits brought. There are more Hopes, a Nymph Tears less, and pillar/pend split.

ilovethisilovethisisuredolovethis. The decks works good, overall. I'm starting to think if it could ever be a FG farmer.

[UTAlan]

Crying Dimension

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This is a fun deck to play and takes out most AI3 opponents fairly quickly. The biggest problem I can see facing is not finding your quintessence in time to keep your first nymph safe for a full round. If you're facing a CC heavy deck, you'll need an early quint to get your damage going. Since the deck is currently making a little more quanta than you'll need, I'd drop a Lobo and Pillar in exchange for two more Quintessences. This will make you much more likely to get an early quint without really affecting the rest of the deck. You might not get a Lobo as quickly as before, but that is secondary to getting your nymphs in play and safe. This is a great series and you did a good job of putting together a good Nymph's Tears / Aether combo. Here is what the deck would look like with my recommendations:

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[bucky1andonly]

I think this deck in your series has obvious quanta issues, but I do like the idea overall.  But there is only 6 creatures for hope.

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Adding 4 photons and some luciferans will make the hope work more effectively, and faster.  Although I only have 3 icebolts in the deck now, that should be more than enough while the creatures slowly whittle down your opponents hp.  I took out the 1 morningstar and 1 sanctuary.  In a 40 card deck, having only 1 copy of a card is not the best way to go.

I also added another hope, just so it is drawn more often.  The luciferans help a lot with early light generation for the constant healing from light nymphs.
Like you said, your deck series is mostly for fun and shouldn't be expected to win a lot.  I would say this is a fun deck, but could be rather annoying if it got going, but I like that aspect too.

[Tiko]

Personally, I am a great fan of Nymph's Tears, as I believe their power, summoning one of the most rare cards and Water forming a synergy with any other element, is unmatched. I'm glad I found a full series of decks that are based on this power.

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I chose Crying Abomination, because it reminded me of one of our suprise decks in Team Water in War (and the others had been taken already). I would propose the usage of Gravity pillars or pendulums, but I understand it's a series of duo-decks.

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Here would be my slight modification, which turned out to be quite successful against Elders. Abominations are sturdy fighters, and having one extra around is always nice. I found out that mutation more often than not backfires and it kills and mutates in the wrong moment every time (or maybe it's just luck), so I swapped them for another Discord - as they are highly destructive when pulled out early enough, and the lone Ice Shield for a few Squids. They're somewhat cheaper to play than the shield, and though they work up their cost very quickly, they are also good for drawing out CC before the Nymph arrives.

[Malignant]

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How crappy. If you want it based on Vulture/Aflatoxin (Death Nymph)/Plague, just do it. Remove unnecessary cards like the Mummies. In the deck above, I removed the Mummies, and added more cards. The deck, have more of the necessary cards for the combo. The 6 Nymph's Tears, ensure you can get the Death Nymph out early, and also you can put more Death Nymphs if the 1st few you summon dies. The 3 Vulture/Plagues ensures you get the kill combo out early before you deck out. The Arsenic, while not important, can be very helpful in killing your opponent, so I left it there. Gotta say though, the deck is quite unique and very fun to play. If you want to, you could add more Vultures, or bring back the Mummies, though they are not important for the combo. If you ever get a Death Nymph, it might be best to not include it. If you really want it though, you can remove 1 Nymph's Tear per Death Nymph, and then convert some Death Pendulums to Bone Pillars.

[Higurashi]

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This is the only deck that doesn't contain any creature. One reason is that Nymph hits hard.  is all about dimension, so what you have to do is put the creatures and yourself in another dimension. Pretty much the same strategy with mono .
So...this is it. I hope everyone will enjoy and have fun playing the decks. Any feedback is welcomed.

Hits hard indeed.. it's just too bad the opponent dies too quickly for you to truly enjoy the invulnerable army, isn't it? The funny part about this is that you can easily make a CC version because Water and Aether both have awesome CC. Your deck as it is has quite a lot of quanta, which is always nice since NT's destroy them. There's a way to get around that though. Since you spend two cards to get one, you lose card advantage. What do we use to regain it? That's right: PU.

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With 4 Tears, we have a good chance to draw one early, although the deck doesn't really need it. The PU's make Quint superfluous, and more quanta is always a plus so removing one Lobo was worth it. We can now get more Nymphs and even get faster to raise defenses. Cool!

I really enjoy this deck idea of yours. Seeing as I have 4 Turquoise Nymphs, I tend to just PU those, but this is good for others to feel the awesomeness of a self-quinting hard-hitter. I'ma play around with Freezes and Lightnings too.. maybe some Squids.

[johannhowitzer]

I experimented with Light Nymph abuse deck concepts a while back, but was never able to make it work well... Crying Crawler looks pretty stable.  Now let's see if we can slim it down a touch...

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Luciferin is a much quicker card than Nymph's Tears.  It costs 5 less, uses "any" quanta, and doesn't suffer from summoning sickness.  Downside: it's a single use.  So it will get your Hope started much more quickly and reduce the Light pillar quota.  The original concept also had only six vanilla creatures, while this has eight - dragons are more expensive, but they'll make the kill easier and give you a higher cap on Hope.  Alternate idea: work with Mind Flayers and Aether mark!  You could spawn one Nymph Queen, then keep spawning more and lobotomizing them, then luciferizing.

The above deck gets crazy reliable draws, and with the significantly higher creatures / total cards ratio, you'll have Luciferizable creatures faster on average.  I tested it against AI3 and it did very well... its single most glaring weakness is renewable / field damage-based CC, which is another great reason to pack a few dragons.

[Terroking]

Here's some advice on that Crying Shriekers deck, the / one.

After some testing I ended up arriving at this final version:

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To explain the changes in order:

Pillars->Pendulums: So much generation wasn't really needed, and especially isn't now that we've reduced the number and reliance on Shriekers.
Less Shriekers: The deck was a little light on damage, so I opted to change it into a much more balanced duo, and while I removed some Shrieking damage, I put some more in.
Toadfishes: Big help to the deck, allow it to kill faster while the enemy is locked down and keep pace with other decks until you can get your Nymphs running. Also, more creatures=more resilient to CC.
Freezing Shield: Not really needed in such a deck, and with only 1 copy it wasn't a good thing to rely on. I took it out for a Pend, but you could always mess around with the deck numbers and put 2-3 in if desired.
Stone Skins: Found myself accumulating a lot of spare in test games, so I decided that putting 2 copies in for clutch saves would be a good idea. It's especially helpful vs. Poison decks, but you can always exchange the Skins out for any other Earth or Water card you choose, mostly they are filler.

[kirchj33]

Crying Shrieker -

I am making the following suggestion for this deck because I feel really strongly that this deck is making a key mistake with trident.  This listing is for a trials entry, and I know I am making a suggestion that is <25% in element, and that is how strongly I feel that this deck is making that mistake.  First off, trident is almost unplayable if it doesn't appear in the opening draw.  For this reason, I have added an extra one to try and increase the draw chance.  Secondly, in the unupped environment, trident NEEDS to be played off water pendies and not earth.  This way the process goes, Turn 1 ---> play water pendies, Turn 2 ---> Play trident & collect quanta, Turn 3 ---> Wreak havoc.  This means you will need to flip the mark and turn the focus to using more watery creatures.

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For the purposes of keeping things trials legal, here is a deck without nymphs that is >25% , but doesn't quite fit the nymph theme of this thread.

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