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Re: Zen [Duo-Earth-Darkness][18 Shards][Plat-PVP2-Fun-Grinder] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35399.msg460929#msg460929
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2012, 01:47:32 pm »
^ nevermind about mirror shield. It's unecessary risk.

Just posting to thank you so much Snow for making this deck. After farming my butt off to get the required shards, I won 5k electrum from a single game from a crysora/purify deck.

The most awesome thing about this deck is that you have complete control when to kill the opoment. In this game, I chose to stall even after the opponent had 1hp, because I wanted to get all my SoD's out for a 196 hp EM. It worked :)

I actually used 5 SoV's because I didn't have 6, and replace the longsword with a dirk. It's free and will still hit 2hp over diamond shield, which seems like a safer option than the 1 random quanta costing longsword to me.

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Re: Zen [Duo-Earth-Darkness][18 Shards][Plat-PVP2-Fun-Grinder] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35399.msg461228#msg461228
« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2012, 07:26:34 am »
^ nevermind about mirror shield. It's unecessary risk.
Good that you reasoned it by yourself.

[...] I [...] replace the longsword with a dirk. It's free and will still hit 2hp over diamond shield, which seems like a safer option than the 1 random quanta costing longsword to me.
This makes perfect sense, yes. I didn't think of it because I never thought of upgrading the dagger. I'm glad to see that this deck could still be improved, thanks. I'll post the latest version in the OP.

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Re: Zen [Duo-Earth-Darkness][18 Shards][Plat-PVP2-Fun-Grinder] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35399.msg461230#msg461230
« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2012, 07:49:20 am »
[...] I [...] replace the longsword with a dirk. It's free and will still hit 2hp over diamond shield, which seems like a safer option than the 1 random quanta costing longsword to me.
This makes perfect sense, yes. I didn't think of it because I never thought of upgrading the dagger. I'm glad to see that this deck could still be improved, thanks. I'll post the latest version in the OP.
But it also should be taken into consideration that the zero cost dirk could be bad for the mulligan. It's probably individual preference for whether you want a (very slightly) better initial draw, or be safer down the road with the ability to kill with zero quanta (this was particularly useful for me against pestal decks that stole my quantum towers). I chose the second option.

But thinking of mulligan, it may actually be advantageous to draw the dirk in the first hand, if the opponent has no PC or you have excess PA's.

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Re: Zen [Duo-Earth-Darkness][18 Shards][Plat-PVP2-Fun-Grinder] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35399.msg463698#msg463698
« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2012, 09:51:27 am »
I finally got the shards to try this and for the first 10 or so games i found it hard to get an earth quanta to stick to pa anything with BH, pests, EQ, Explosions, and steals hurting a low quanta draw since you usually draw 1 tower if any.

Do you have any suggestions?
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Re: Zen [Duo-Earth-Darkness][18 Shards][Plat-PVP2-Fun-Grinder] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35399.msg463700#msg463700
« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2012, 09:58:39 am »
Actually apart from praying to get earth quanta I didn't found any other way to play PA. Moreover QT are very trolling.. I found myslef having 7 of each quanta (at least) and 0 earth for PA.
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Re: Zen [Duo-Earth-Darkness][18 Shards][Plat-PVP2-Fun-Grinder] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35399.msg463701#msg463701
« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2012, 10:00:13 am »
-3 QTs + 3 (unupped) novas makes one happy.
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Re: Zen [Duo-Earth-Darkness][18 Shards][Plat-PVP2-Fun-Grinder] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35399.msg463756#msg463756
« Reply #30 on: February 23, 2012, 05:42:58 pm »
-3 QTs + 3 (unupped) novas makes one happy.
Wow thank you it helps this deck significantly
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Re: Zen [Duo-Earth-Darkness][18 Shards][Plat-PVP2-Fun-Grinder] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35399.msg463759#msg463759
« Reply #31 on: February 23, 2012, 05:47:37 pm »
-3 QTs + 3 (unupped) novas makes one happy.
That would make this a trio, and hence necessitate a thread move to a different section!

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Re: Zen [Duo-Earth-Darkness][18 Shards][Plat-PVP2-Fun-Grinder] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35399.msg463761#msg463761
« Reply #32 on: February 23, 2012, 05:54:16 pm »
-3 QTs + 3 (unupped) novas makes one happy.
That would make this a trio, and hence necessitate a thread move to a different section!
It's just a variation (cal's iirc), and could be included as such in notes. Though if it is a ''better version'', it should be moved in trios as you said.
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Re: Zen [Duo-Earth-Darkness][18 Shards][Plat-PVP2-Fun-Grinder] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35399.msg464203#msg464203
« Reply #33 on: February 25, 2012, 01:57:51 am »
50 % shot of winning, 50 % shot of losing. I wonder how this works as a FG grinder.

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Re: Zen [Duo-Earth-Darkness][18 Shards][Plat-PVP2-Fun-Grinder] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35399.msg465877#msg465877
« Reply #34 on: February 29, 2012, 12:03:37 pm »
-3 QTs + 3 (unupped) novas makes one happy.
Good addition - put it in the OP.

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Re: Zen [Duo-Earth-Darkness][18 Shards][Plat-PVP2-Fun-Grinder] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35399.msg504601#msg504601
« Reply #35 on: May 27, 2012, 11:16:11 am »
i've tried this deck, but loosing 80% of the games (about 200 games in gold+plat)

i don't know what i'm doing wrong. i have either a bad draw, or my SoV are destroyed. If I have SoV i don't draw PA or don't have enough quanta for it.

I can't recommend this deck, SPlat is way more reliable and effective

 

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