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Re: Silence is Golden [Platinum][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35616.msg1093770#msg1093770
« Reply #108 on: August 21, 2013, 10:28:12 pm »
i soooo wish i had a couple golden nymphs to give this a try :'(
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Re: Silence is Golden [Platinum][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35616.msg1093776#msg1093776
« Reply #109 on: August 22, 2013, 01:42:33 am »
@Scara: you can take out the Deck Helper Comment in the OP
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Re: Silence is Golden [Platinum][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35616.msg1093839#msg1093839
« Reply #110 on: August 22, 2013, 08:55:00 am »
Like Chapuz asked on the other page, is a list that doesn't use Nymphs (but uses nymph's tears instead) possible? I'm thinking about it, but apparently can't find a decent way out:
1.Nymph's Tears require a total of 18 Water Quanta, meaning they can't be fully supported by Supernovae;
2.The PSNBow engine isn't appliable anymore (probably), because there are other pillars (time towers/pendulums) that conflict with the entropy penduli for the mulligan.

If someone more expert than me wanted to work on that, I'd be grateful.

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Re: Silence is Golden [Platinum][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35616.msg1093850#msg1093850
« Reply #111 on: August 22, 2013, 11:03:32 am »
Like Chapuz asked on the other page, is a list that doesn't use Nymphs (but uses nymph's tears instead) possible? I'm thinking about it, but apparently can't find a decent way out:
1.Nymph's Tears require a total of 18 Water Quanta, meaning they can't be fully supported by Supernovae;
2.The PSNBow engine isn't appliable anymore (probably), because there are other pillars (time towers/pendulums) that conflict with the entropy penduli for the mulligan.

If someone more expert than me wanted to work on that, I'd be grateful.

You mean like this?
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You don't need 18  :water. You only need 6 :water If you get one golden nymph down use mitosis to create more. Thats what the Shard of Rediness is for.
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Re: Silence is Golden [Platinum][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35616.msg1093853#msg1093853
« Reply #112 on: August 22, 2013, 11:11:52 am »
Yeah, something like that, but with silences :P

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Re: Silence is Golden [Platinum][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35616.msg1093921#msg1093921
« Reply #113 on: August 22, 2013, 08:09:52 pm »
My version with Silences and NT, but without Supernova and mitosis:
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It didnt get much attention when I posted it months ago; its also more of a PVP-deck than a goldfarmdeck.
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Re: Silence is Golden [Platinum][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35616.msg1093922#msg1093922
« Reply #114 on: August 22, 2013, 08:20:07 pm »
My version with Silences and NT, but without Supernova and mitosis:
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It didnt get much attention when I posted it months ago; its also more of a PVP-deck than a goldfarmdeck.
Wheep, looks pretty good, I'll have to try this.

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Re: Silence is Golden [Platinum][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35616.msg1114370#msg1114370
« Reply #115 on: December 10, 2013, 05:00:38 am »
So I got a third golden nymph from the oracle and was like: "hmmmm…..  I wonder if there's a deck where I could use this combo"  Does anyone have any luck with this deck still?  I tried it in plat and gold and haven't found it to be very successful in either.  Most decks with high HP can outlast the silence chain, and without any shields or CC, you don't last long.  I might try to work in some stall capability, like sundials, or shields, (maybe SoSac, but that would work against the needed time quanta).  Oh well, just a flag to see if anyone else is still thinking about and using this deck.

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Re: Silence is Golden [Platinum][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35616.msg1114415#msg1114415
« Reply #116 on: December 10, 2013, 02:56:30 pm »
outlast the silence chain you say? Are you sure you use the mitosis+ SoR trick properly? If you use this combo 1 time at the exact moment you start the silence chain, you have more than 5 nymphs on average around for the next 5 turns (which is how many silences you have). That makes 5*5*8attack=200. The problem with this deck is that it has really unreliable draws and even with an optimal one it takes at least 3 turns to do anything useful at all. rushes, quanta control and sanctuary all counter this deck pretty hard, so do creatures or weapons that can make the nymphs unable to use abilities (and many others). Also the SN nerf hit this deck pretty hard.
Edit:My mistake, its actually just 7 attack; meaning it takes another Sor on the second last turn of the silence chain to finish the opponent.
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Re: Silence is Golden [Platinum][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35616.msg1114432#msg1114432
« Reply #117 on: December 10, 2013, 04:21:41 pm »
outlast the silence chain you say? Are you sure you use the mitosis+ SoR trick properly? If you use this combo 1 time at the exact moment you start the silence chain, you have more than 5 nymphs on average around for the next 5 turns (which is how many silences you have). That makes 5*5*8attack=200. The problem with this deck is that it has really unreliable draws and even with an optimal one it takes at least 3 turns to do anything useful at all. rushes, quanta control and sanctuary all counter this deck pretty hard, so do creatures or weapons that can make the nymphs unable to use abilities (and many others). Also the SN nerf hit this deck pretty hard.

My lonely Golden Nymph is only 6 attack.  However, adjusting your 'formula' for more than 5 Nymphs ("more than 5 Nymphs on average") might end up giving > 200 total damage still.
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Re: Silence is Golden [Platinum][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35616.msg1114443#msg1114443
« Reply #118 on: December 10, 2013, 05:04:33 pm »
I used this deck and was very happy with it for PvP2. I haven't tried it much against the arena. I could probably gather some stats for it.

My lonely Golden Nymph is only 6 attack.  However, adjusting your 'formula' for more than 5 Nymphs ("more than 5 Nymphs on average") might end up giving > 200 total damage still.



7 attack, since this deck is meant to used upped Golden Nymphs
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Re: Silence is Golden [Platinum][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35616.msg1114529#msg1114529
« Reply #119 on: December 10, 2013, 11:23:51 pm »
oh sorry my bad,i really thought they would have 1 attack more
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