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Shard of Patience + Fractal decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48077.msg1054920#msg1054920
« on: March 28, 2013, 11:35:08 am »
These 2 are the most powerful decks I've come up with so far:

Regia Solis:
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This is just a slightly improved version of the most classical (and outdated) FG-destroyer deck replacing Light dragons with Shard of patience and purify. However it works best against AI4 (roundabout 90% win ratio and 50% EM-ratio)

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This will work only with upped cards, however if I do the math right its incredibly powerful. It can completely shut down any other deck if you have enough silences on the first hand and should be able to finish off an opponent within 6 turns. It has more reliable draws than Regia Solis and silence provides immunity to mass CC and most permanent controls.
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Re: Shard of Patience + Fractal decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48077.msg1054941#msg1054941
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2013, 01:33:04 pm »
No defense at all in the 2nd one?
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Re: Shard of Patience + Fractal decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48077.msg1054947#msg1054947
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2013, 02:17:13 pm »
Why would you need any defense? it slows down all the other equally fast rushes with silence and everything else is slower anyway.

Edit: If you want, you can replace 3 silences with 1 Aether Pillar and 2 Phase shields. However I think this actually makes you more vulnerable to quanta control decks and some powerful stalls.
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Re: Shard of Patience + Fractal decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48077.msg1055194#msg1055194
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2013, 03:14:49 pm »
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Re: Shard of Patience + Fractal decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48077.msg1055248#msg1055248
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2013, 06:43:47 pm »
I have been thinking about trying a deck like this.  Unfortunately, I haven't gotten the chance to upgrade everything.

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Re: Shard of Patience + Fractal decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48077.msg1055294#msg1055294
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2013, 08:36:59 pm »
To add on to your list of fractal/SoP combos, Fractal Damselflies is a lot of fun.

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Re: Shard of Patience + Fractal decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48077.msg1056203#msg1056203
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2013, 08:35:29 pm »
To add on to your list of fractal/SoP combos, Fractal Damselflies is a lot of fun.
Well actually this deck uses SoF not SoP, but the purpose is the same (more resistance to CC+ more dmg). Yes that deck is fun, however I've got nothing to add to it.
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Re: Shard of Patience + Fractal decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48077.msg1056204#msg1056204
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2013, 08:36:30 pm »
To add on to your list of fractal/SoP combos, Fractal Damselflies is a lot of fun.
Well actually this deck uses SoF not SoP, but the purpose is the same (more resistance to CC+ more dmg). Yes that deck is fun, however I've got nothing to add to it.

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Re: Shard of Patience + Fractal decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48077.msg1056209#msg1056209
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2013, 08:59:59 pm »
I have been thinking about trying a deck like this.  Unfortunately, I haven't gotten the chance to upgrade everything.

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Any suggestions/feedback would be greatly appreciated.

I think I saw a similiar deck somewhere else; unfortunately I didnt find it. I havent tried your deck (because I have only 2 upped SoPs so the quanta balance would be terribly of), but I think this deck gets way to much darkness quanta (since devourers deliver them aswell).
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Re: Shard of Patience + Fractal decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48077.msg1056215#msg1056215
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2013, 09:18:44 pm »
I have been thinking about trying a deck like this.  Unfortunately, I haven't gotten the chance to upgrade everything.

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Any suggestions/feedback would be greatly appreciated.

I think I saw a similiar deck somewhere else; unfortunately I didnt find it. I havent tried your deck (because I have only 2 upped SoPs so the quanta balance would be terribly of), but I think this deck gets way to much darkness quanta (since devourers deliver them aswell).

Keep in mind that you're going to want to fractal devourers as early as possible in order to get a quanta lockdown in place ASAP, and that you're going to keep fractaling devs and vampires throughout the whole match. With that in mind, this doesn't seem like too much darkness quanta (and it's pretty well in line with the amount included in more traditional versions of pestal/devtal). I'd honestly consider adding darkness pends if anything, though it doesn't look too bad right now.

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Re: Shard of Patience + Fractal decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48077.msg1056249#msg1056249
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2013, 11:26:02 pm »
Would Water Tower work better?

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Re: Shard of Patience + Fractal decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48077.msg1056252#msg1056252
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2013, 12:08:06 am »
I personally believe that the first upgrade priority is the darkness pendulums.  Getting the extra darkness quanta turn 1 would allow for an earlier quanta lockdown and an increase in darkness quanta generation (from devourers).  It may actually be better to leave the vampires unupped since the upped vamps would be more difficult to fractal.  The extra 2 darkness quanta per vamp does not seem to be worth the attack boost, especially when the vampires are simultaneously being boosted by the SOP.

I almost have enough quanta to upgrade the pendulums.  After that, I should be able to do some real testing.
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