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Re: "I told you to take the wizard’s staff!" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53428.msg1122071#msg1122071
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2014, 09:52:32 pm »
Minus the momentums and upgrades, someone used that against me in BL at least twice; I can't remember who. (and nor should I say, anyway, if I did)  Pretty sure I lost to it at least once.

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Re: "I told you to take the wizard’s staff!" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53428.msg1122195#msg1122195
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2014, 06:52:13 pm »
I don't know if I'm working this right, but I am playing more rush style.

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while my more long term game is.

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Re: "I told you to take the wizard’s staff!" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53428.msg1122245#msg1122245
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2014, 08:59:16 pm »
Don't upgrade the druidics. They heal more when they're unupped

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Re: "I told you to take the wizard’s staff!" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53428.msg1122246#msg1122246
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2014, 09:10:12 pm »
i got that, but i don't have 6 unupped versions anymore.  I have also worked with Arsenic, but that is a totally different deck

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Re: "I told you to take the wizard’s staff!" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53428.msg1122260#msg1122260
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2014, 10:22:51 pm »
Precogs in a deck higher than 30 cards are just useless. Precogs' use is to slim up the deck and a deck with 31+ cards gets slower with them, or just nothing changes.
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Re: "I told you to take the wizard’s staff!" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53428.msg1122265#msg1122265
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2014, 10:34:42 pm »
Precog can be used to provide space to deck out people, and if it turns out you won't need to, you just use them. That said, I would advocate Sundials over Precogs in Adrenastaffs because it takes a long time to get set up, and you're not using your :light for Blessing to hit the 7 attack sweet spot for Adren with Jade Staff.
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Re: "I told you to take the wizard’s staff!" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53428.msg1122270#msg1122270
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2014, 11:05:20 pm »
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Re: "I told you to take the wizard’s staff!" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53428.msg1123497#msg1123497
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2014, 02:24:36 am »
I would say "rainbow it up". Throw in an arsenic or two, momentum, and maybe even a pulvy ::)

Also, since we're playing upped, how about epi-Crusaders? 7/7 = 15 damage + 15 healing. Heals worse but it's basically a massive vampire.
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Re: "I told you to take the wizard’s staff!" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53428.msg1180352#msg1180352
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2015, 11:04:18 am »
epi staff-crusader?

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Up or not to up the staves is here the question. The upped version also helps the crusader. But unupped is the healing better.

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Re: "I told you to take the wizard’s staff!" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53428.msg1180355#msg1180355
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2015, 12:12:59 pm »
I'd say upped for the Crusader version, as you will be getting extra healing from the Crusaders, and when upped they hit the magic 7. Unupped = a bit more healing, upped = a LOT more damage.
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Re: "I told you to take the wizard’s staff!" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53428.msg1180369#msg1180369
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2015, 06:54:11 pm »
I guess this kind of depends on what decks you want to have an advantage over, should you face them. Upped staves leads to less of a reliance on deck-out as a win condition and generally has a better match-up versus decks that are larger than 40 cards and have healing/creature control. However, unupped staves has a better match-up versus rushes and denial because you're no longer aiming to use Epinephrine on the Crusaders, instead you're aiming to get that 20 HP from a staff in order to hold the opponent's creatures at bay. You can use upped staves like this too, but there are going to be times when you can't seem to draw another Animate Weapon/staff fast enough and 15 HP may not be enough to cut it.

TL;DR: Ultimately it's up to you, upped staves lead to faster games but unupped give more insurance against decks that are faster or have answers for Crusaders.
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« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2015, 09:45:09 pm »
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