Vault

[MrBlonde]

THE VAULT

Total number of cards: 360

Aether ------------------------------- 12 x Aether Pillar 0 x Spark 6 x Lighting 2 x Parallel Universe 0 x Imortal 6 x Dimensional Shield 0 x Phase Dragon 0 x Phase Spider 0 x Quintessence 8 x Fractal 0 x Turquoise Nymph 2 x Lobotomizer ------------------------------- 36 cards	Air ------------------------------- 8 x Wind Pillar 0 x Dragonfly 0 x Wyrm 0 x Azure Dragon 2 x Fog Shield 0 x Thunderstorm 6 x Flying Weapon 0 x Firefly Queen 0 x Firefly 0 x Unstable Gas 0 x Shockwave 4 x Owl Eyes 0 x Blue Nymph ------------------------------- 20 cards	Darkness ------------------------------- 4 x Obsidian Pillar 0 x Black Dragon 0 x Devourer 0 x Parasite 2 x Dusk Mantle 6 x Steal 0 x Nightfall 0 x Drain Life 0 x Minor Vampire 2 x Liquid Shadow 0 x Black Nymph ------------------------------- 14 cards	Death ------------------------------- 84 x Bone Pillar 6 x Bone Dragon 0 x Virus 12 x Flesh Spider 4 x Vulture 4 x Skull Shield 0 x Skeleton 8 x Boneyard 18 x Poison 8 x Plague 10 x Bone Wall 6 x Aflatoxin 18 x Mummy 0 x Grey Nymph 14 x Arsenic ------------------------------- 192 cards
Earth ------------------------------- 0 x Stone Pillar 0 x Antlion 0 x Hematite Golem 0 x Stone Dragon 0 x Titanium Shield 0 x Plate Armor 0 x Gnome Rider 0 x Graboid 0 x Shrieker 3 x Enchant Artifact 0 x Earthquake 0 x Stone Skin 0 x Basillisk Blood 0 x Auburn Nymph ------------------------------- 3 cards	Entropy ------------------------------- 12 x Amethyst Pillar 0 x Maxwell's Demon 0 x Abomination 0 x Purple Dragon 0 x Dissipation Shield 0 x Lycanthrope 0 x Chaos Seed 0 x Nova 0 x Mutation 0 x Fallen Elf 4 x Antimatter 0 x Butterfly Effect 0 x Purple Nymph 6 x Discord ------------------------------- 22 cards	Fire ------------------------------- 0 x Burning Pillar 0 x Ash Eater 0 x Crimson Dragon 0 x Fire Spirit 0 x Fire Bolt 0 x Fire Shield 0 x Deflagration 0 x Rain of Fire 0 x Immolation 0 x Lava Golem 0 x Rage Potion 0 x Phoenix 0 x Red Nymph ------------------------------- 0 cards	Gravity ------------------------------- 8 x Gravity Pillar 3 x Sapphire Charger 0 x Armagio 0 x Graviton Mercenary 0 x Colossal Dragon 1 x Gravity Shield 0 x Momentum 2 x Otyugh 2=0 x Gravity Pull 0 x Graviton Fire Eater 0 x Black Hole 0 x Amber Nymph ------------------------------- 16 cards
Life ------------------------------- 6 x Emerald Pillar 0 x Emerald Dragon 3 x Horned Frog 0 x Rustler 0 x Cockatrice 0 x Forest Spirit 0 x Heal 0 x Thorn Carapace 2 x Emerald Shield 6 x Empathic Bond 5 x Adrenaline 0 x Green Nymph 1 x Druidic Staff ------------------------------- 23 cards	Light ------------------------------- 0 x Light Pillar 0 x Photon 0 x Golden Dragon 0 x Pegasus 0 x Holy Light 0 x Solar Shield 0 x Guardian Angel 0 x Blessing 0 x Reflective Shield 0 x Miracle 0 x Luciferin 0 x Hope 0 x White Nymph ------------------------------- 0 cards	Time ------------------------------- 0 x Time Factory 0 x Deja Vu 0 x Fate Egg 0 x Procastination 5 x Reverse Time 0 x Golden Hourglass 0 x Devonian Dragon 0 x Anubis 5 x Sundial 0 x Scarab 0 x Precognition 0 x Pharaoh 0 x Golden Nymph ------------------------------- 10 cards	Water ------------------------------- 0 x Sapphire Pillar 12 x Chrysoara 0 x Blue Crawler 12 x Freeze 0 x Ice Bolt 0 x Ice Shield 0 x Purify 0 x Arctic Squid 0 x Ice Dragon 0 x Toadfish 0 x Mind Flayer 0 x Nymph's Tears 0 x Flooding 0 x Nymph Queen ------------------------------- 24 cards
Other ------------------------------- 0 x Quantum Pillar 0 x Dagger 0 x Short Sword 0 x Hammer ------------------------------- 0 cards

[MrBlonde]

Hmmm 3 days until the Vault needs to be filled. I will start trying to figure out a lot of this in my mind but suggestions of must have off-element cards would be good. Also if you have personal cards you want to use let me know.

[coinich]

Well, I have 2 (3?) Pulvies, 3 OE, and 3 Eternities.  If we need those.

[MrBlonde]

What decks are you guys going to play? Don't forget you need to have a minimum of 50% death cards (15 at least) so we need to make sure the death card balance is good. The more pillars we have the better off we will be if we are losing but the less versatility we will have.

I'm thinking 80-100 death pillers, 160 death cards and 100-120 other cards. Unfortunately going that way really does limit our options in the different types of decks we can use. I see speed poison and fractal decks being our main decks. Any suggestions will be helpful and i wish we had a little more time. Tuesday morning i will have time to fully focus on this but until then i don't have that much time. So please post stuff that will help me make these final decisions.

[TheoCT]

I'm starting to get very busy right now, so sorry I can't contribute more than I have been lately. I'm planning on using my death/life adrenaline deck. It works amazingly well as creatures with 3 attack benefit the most from adrenaline. Against fire though it will get creamed thanks to RoF.

[MrBlonde]

Bleh, not entirely thrilled with my card dispersal here. I know we don't have a whole lot of time to make suggestions on this but if you can that would be great.

[MrBlonde]

After some reconsideration i took out some cards. Having only a limited amount of cards really forced me to narrow down the amount of decks we could have since Aether and Water took up so many cards.

Virus(6) - seemed too situational
Fire Shield(2) - The cost (6) was just too much for me to think that we would be able to use this card effectively without having pillars and adding pillars seemed wasteful.
Deflag(4) - without fire shield a death/deflag deck didn't seem very strong. I figured against aether this combo would work but i think darkness splash with steals and dusk would work better. Although now that i look at the cost of unupped dusk (6) i'm not so sure about that anymore either.

ETA - Looks like we have an additional 2 days to get this done. Awesome.

[Malduk]

After some reconsideration i took out some cards. Having only a limited amount of cards really forced me to narrow down the amount of decks we could have since Aether and Water took up so many cards.

Virus(6) - seemed too situational
Fire Shield(2) - The cost (6) was just too much for me to think that we would be able to use this card effectively without having pillars and adding pillars seemed wasteful.
Deflag(4) - without fire shield a death/deflag deck didn't seem very strong. I figured against aether this combo would work but i think darkness splash with steals and dusk would work better. Although now that i look at the cost of unupped dusk (6) i'm not so sure about that anymore either.

ETA - Looks like we have an additional 2 days to get this done. Awesome.

I was about to post the exact same thing...
I also have doubts about hourglasses. They are rather expensive to play and use unupped, and there are no time factories in the vault. Also, unupped Otys are kinda meh. Too slow creature control that is also very vulnerable to opponents creature control. Not sure which deck you planned to use them in.
I thought 360 cards is huge. Looking at this vault, it feels very limiting now 

We should probably have all decks ready before the time for vault is up to get optimal number of cards from each element.

[MrBlonde]

I was about to post the exact same thing...
I also have doubts about hourglasses. They are rather expensive to play and use unupped, and there are no time factories in the vault. Also, unupped Otys are kinda meh. Too slow creature control that is also very vulnerable to opponents creature control. Not sure which deck you planned to use them in.
I thought 360 cards is huge. Looking at this vault, it feels very limiting now 

We should probably have all decks ready before the time for vault is up to get optimal number of cards from each element.

Awwww crap, nice catch Malduk. The hourglasses are a typo. Those are meant to be sundials. I'm planning on using a upped rewind deck with sundials for a stall poison deck. And yeah it really is pretty limiting. We could pare down some of the Aether and Water cards but it looks like for the most part Speed Poison and Fractal is going to be our bread and butter. Maybe some dim shields should be added.

Some other cards i was thinking of adding. Reflective shield.... only worthwhile vs fire though and because unupped it doesn't even shield you for damage seems pointless. I was thinking Jade shield as well because it reduces dmg by 1 so at least it can be used for afla as well. Pretty pricey though and really only worthwhile vs fire or darkness.

The oty's i put in based on some suggestions by coinich. Actually if he could post a decent gravity/death deck with oty's that would be great.

[coinich]

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[TheoCT]

I think reflective shield would be EXTREMELY helpful, or jade shield(even more helpful for my deck). If we play vs air this might help a lot as they might try an unstable gas deck, or even fire might do that, and the shields would destroy those type of spell decks and make them literally completely useless.

[MrBlonde]

I think reflective shield would be EXTREMELY helpful, or jade shield(even more helpful for my deck). If we play vs air this might help a lot as they might try an unstable gas deck, or even fire might do that, and the shields would destroy those type of spell decks and make them literally completely useless.

Hmmm... biggest problem with reflective shield i see is that we will have to splash with light so kind of a waste of quanta since we wouldn't really want to use any other light cards. Or we need to add novas. So i might just pack a couple jade shields. Cost is kind of high though but adding 2 shouldn't be a problem.

I'm probably gonna ditch the entropy cards though so it will free up some space.