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Tactics https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27045.msg343780#msg343780
« on: May 31, 2011, 07:57:09 am »
Hi guys i just realized something and wanted to bring this up and see what you guys think.

With our 3 wins we are currently at 156+18 = 174 which puts us at 6 cards under the 5th member deck. If we win the 4th game (which would be awesome) we would be at 180 cards and would need to field a 5th member. Now tactically lets discuss this.

1) More players is not necessarily better. SS said each match is basically -12 EV.
2) To prevent this we could sub Marv to prevent any chance of us having to field another deck next round.

So what do you guy's think? This war is supposed to be fun and enjoyable and honestly we really don't have much of a chance of winning. So do we make the "tactically" sound move or just say screw it and not worry about that stuff? Anyhow for us to do this i would want a unanimous response with no reservations. If anyone thinks this is a bad move in any way or does not want to do this we will not be subbing.

Feel free to speak your mind.  ;)

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Re: Tactics https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27045.msg343859#msg343859
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2011, 02:03:10 pm »
Interesting.  Marv winning is almost as bad for us as Marv losing.  lol.  Looking forward to Marv's post in this thread.

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Re: Tactics https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27045.msg343894#msg343894
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2011, 03:35:30 pm »
if marv accepts, why not? guees it can help.
thought i'm not sure it's fair not letting DM/SS play.
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Re: Tactics https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27045.msg343903#msg343903
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2011, 04:03:45 pm »
To me its ok, I can get sub if its better to the team. About Dm or SS playing next round, one of them could play this round instead of me and its ok. :D

I will now pm majofa and say him to wait the team contact him, to tell who will sub me. You can discuss, and once you have the decision, the chosen sub talk to him.

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Re: Tactics https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27045.msg343908#msg343908
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2011, 04:19:48 pm »
To me its ok, I can get sub if its better to the team. About Dm or SS playing next round, one of them could play this round instead of me and its ok. :D

I will now pm majofa and say him to wait the team contact him, to tell who will sub me. You can discuss, and once you have the decision, the chosen sub talk to him.
Thanks Marv. Seriously though if you are against this in any way just let me know. Really it would be no skin off my back, you've been a great player for us and would hate to take away any of the enjoyment from you. I wonder if i can just ask Kael if we could play our match but ask for no salvage as you play?

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Re: Tactics https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27045.msg343910#msg343910
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2011, 04:30:48 pm »
No worries, General, lets share the fun. Dm (or anyone else) can play this turn, I can play next turn :D

Re: Tactics https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27045.msg343918#msg343918
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2011, 04:55:26 pm »
No worries, General, lets share the fun. Dm (or anyone else) can play this turn, I can play next turn :D
i am retired unless we get back to fielding 6 decks, so perhaps Dm could sub this round?

p.s. this would sort of make up for Dm not getting to play due to Water's reverted win

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Re: Tactics https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27045.msg343949#msg343949
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2011, 05:52:40 pm »
Dunno if Dm still checks the team forum frequently, better to pm him.

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Re: Tactics https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27045.msg343952#msg343952
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2011, 05:59:00 pm »
Well lets just find Majofa's time frame, see if DM can play it and if not anybody who is available should play. Once again thanks for taking one for the team Marv!

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Re: Tactics https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27045.msg343968#msg343968
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2011, 06:26:59 pm »
Majofa said he would be on tonight, around Midnight GMT. It was the time we were planning to play. I said him that I would get sub for tactical reasons and to wait a contact from another Death member.

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Re: Tactics https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27045.msg343975#msg343975
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2011, 06:41:08 pm »
So about 5 hours from now then? K lets c if we can get DM to sub. 

Re: Tactics https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27045.msg347944#msg347944
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2011, 03:28:17 pm »
Unless the event card changes our vault size, I propose that we substitute the first match in round 10 (and if we lose the first, we should substitute the second match as well).  Our current vault is 96, which results in us fielding two decks.  If we playing both matches without substituting, our vault size will be exactly divisible by 36 regardless of match outcomes.
    win both:  96 + 12 = 108 = (3 * 36)win one:  96 + 6 - 30 = 72 = (2 * 36)win zero:  96 - 60 = 36
Basically, we should not salvage 6 cards for the first win of the round. 

We can actually field competitive decks the rest of the way regardless of what we choose to do here.  Our vault has 4 steals, the earth duo cards, a fractal deck, and we can salvage lots of juicy aether and fire cards from our Round 9 aether opponents' decks.  However, for these same reasons we do not need any salvage from opposing decks.  Salvaging is +6 cards, but every deck we field has an EV of approx -12 cards.

Just my two  :electrum.

 

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