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Round 3 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15595.msg199607#msg199607
« on: November 12, 2010, 08:00:12 pm »
Round 3 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting

Salvaging
:water RavingRabbid: 6 aether pillar
:air truddy02: 1 nightfall, 5 air pendulums
:life Wizelsnarf: 3 life pendulum, 3 life pillars
:darkness 9270984: 3 black dragons, 3 darkness pendulums
:entropy xKelevra: 3 chaos seed, 3 pandamonium

Discarding
Mastermind79: 3 owls eyes, 1 purify, 1 deflag, 4 shockwaves, 2 flying weapons, 2 plagues, 2 bonewalls, 3 bone pillars
home_wreckaz: 1 spider, 1 EQ, 7 bone pillars, 2 death pendulums, 2 bonewalls, 3 bone dragons 2 arsenics
Corrum: 6 momentums, 1 titan, 2 plagues, 1 bone dragons, 4 bone pillars, 4 death pendulums.
Shantu: 6 mummy's, 4 poison's, 1 arsenic, 2 bonewalls, 5 bone pillars

Penalties
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Converting
3 flying weapons, 2 enchant artifacts, 1 adrenaline, 2 heals, 1 life pendulums, 1 life pillar, 1 air pendelum, 1 aether pillar

6 bone pillars, 6 death pendulums


Salvaging
6 cards

RavingRabbid :water
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5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5ia 5ia 5ia 5ia 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 622 622 622
truddy02 :air
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5of 5og 5ol 5oo 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5ul 5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5up 5up 5up 5uq 5ut 5ut 5uu 5uu
wizelsnarf :life
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5bs 5bs 5bs 5bt 5bt 5bt 5bt 5bt 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 61q 61q 61q 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 621 621 621 621 621 621
9270984 :darkness
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5la 5la 5lc 5lc 5lc 5lc 5lc 5li 5li 5uk 5uk 5ul 5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5uo 5up 5up 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606
xKelevra :entropy
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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vg 4vg 4vg 4vg 4vg 4vg 4vi 4vi 4vi 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vp 4vp 4vp 4vp 4vp 4vp 5ia 5ia 5ia 5iaDiscarding
18 cards

Mastermind79 :death
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52g 52g 52g 52g 52p 52p 52p 52p 52q 52r 52r 52r 542 542 542 542 542 5f6 5f6 5ia 5lg 5oi 5oi 5ol 5ol 5ol 5on 5on 5on 5on
home_wreckaz :death
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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52h 52h 52h 52h 52j 52q 52q 52r 52r 52r 52t 52t 52t 52t 542 542 542 593 593 593 593 593 593
Corrum :death
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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52h 52h 52h 52h 52h 52p 52p 52q 52r 52r 542 542 542 55q 55q 55q 55q 55q 55q 55s
Shantu :death
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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52p 52p 52q 52q 52q 52r 52r 52r 52r 52t 52t 52t 52t 52t 52t

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Re: Round 3 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15595.msg200905#msg200905
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2010, 08:56:32 am »
  :water RavingRabbid: 2 purifies and chrysaoras perhaps. junk to convert I think
  :air truddy02: 3 black dragons, 1 nightfall, 2 minor vampires? we could make a proper darkness duo.
 :life wizelsnarf: we could take those quints, it could protect us from the CC we fear so much. Or we could take the dragons from here to make a life duo.
 :darkness 9270984: 3 black dragons, 2 golden dragons, 1 holy light or miracle?
 :entropy xKelevra: 3 chaos seeds and 1 antimatter? probably with a purify or just take junk to convert.


Mastermind: 2 deflags, 3 owl's eyes, 4 shockwaves, 1 purify, 4 plagues (these are really not good :( ), 2 flying weapons.. 2 bone pillars? we should keep the reflective shield.

HW, Corrum and Shantu: no idea. keeping 5 or 6 EQs would be good but.. :( discarding the gravity stuff may be necessary and my deck was a mono death.. these are going to be painful.

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Re: Round 3 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15595.msg201334#msg201334
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2010, 11:18:09 pm »
SALVAGES:

:water deck:

This deck is decent. With aether towers, we can actually replicate it. :time for example is a decent target. Basically anyone without mass CC (hell, even with mass cc), or perma control.

 :air deck:

Nightfall most definitely. 2-2 dragons. 2-3 whatever. Minor vamps are meh though.

 :life

We need to build and test :life deck. Those cards are just sitting there in the Vault. Dragons are decent choice, aether goods are great too.

 :darkness

I wouldnt take :light dragons. If we go light, we go because of miracle. Dragon is 12 quanta. I dont see it working since we dont have fast CC that can take the pressure off so we can gather quanta.

 :entropy

Chaos seed / Pandemonium. Or even 6 Pandemoniums. Mass CC is always lovely, especially when you have Bonewalls. No idea how would that work though  ;D  Entropy deck like that could be tested against :air . They still havent showed Purify if I'm not mistaken. Discord their quanta, CC whatever they got down, AM the rest, and wait for Poison to seal the deal. Smug is fighting air this round, should try to test it before we decide on salvage.


DISCARDS:

Now is a good time to start looking at our best counters and not worry about :death cards so much. There are 7 EQs in our Vault, meaning we can discard 1 and save 6. I would most definitely save those EQs.

We can ditch whatever from that deck Mastermind used. We still dont have a good deck to use against :fire though.

Momentums/Titan... I'm not sure whether to keep them or ditch them. Momentumed dragons are really strong, especially if we actually match shield stall. They need at minimum 2 CC cards to be taken off the field, and shields cant stop them.

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Re: Round 3 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15595.msg202206#msg202206
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2010, 09:10:04 am »
ohh.... salvaging... sooo painful.

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Re: Round 3 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15595.msg202362#msg202362
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2010, 04:49:48 pm »
Why pillars and pends from Wizelsnarf? I mean.. emerald dragons are epic (10/6!) and quints are epic too. Although.. I understand the need for quanta generation, which we lack a bit.
Also, without momentum, our stalkers can only be used in a darkness duo (too bad we have only 1 nightfall) or with blessing that we don't have.. or with chaos powers..

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Re: Round 3 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15595.msg202380#msg202380
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2010, 05:55:00 pm »
I completely understand what you're saying but we have to cut somewhere. This certainly isn't final (salvaging) but we do need to make sure quanta production and our death cards stay as intact as possible.

I hated to get rid of all our gravity and i agree more emerald dragons would be nice but to keep those we need to sub from other areas. So if you think there are better cards to ditch i'm certainly open.

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Re: Round 3 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15595.msg202387#msg202387
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2010, 06:05:04 pm »
If anyone gets online today/tonight, hop over to our chat, we'll do some tests.

As for salvaging, I used couple of Aether pillars for my deck to help get aether for shield against Discord.

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Re: Round 3 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15595.msg202395#msg202395
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2010, 06:20:40 pm »
Unfortunately, I have no better idea what to throw away.

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Re: Round 3 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15595.msg202401#msg202401
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2010, 06:27:04 pm »
Unfortunately, I have no better idea what to throw away.
yeah almost everything at this point is pretty critical. We could throw away an owls eye or a couple wings.

 

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