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Rounds 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15663.msg200564#msg200564
« on: November 13, 2010, 09:41:59 pm »
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Round 4 - Decks

MrBlonde
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MrBlonde

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Re: Rounds 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15663.msg200584#msg200584
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2010, 10:08:26 pm »
Awesome thread is up. So we face time 3 times. Looking through the decks they have used i am sure we will see this deck once.
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The rest of the decks should be a mix of the following.


They had an immo deck but i think thats gone now since they lost with it.

They have a poison stall with plagues, sundials. Xinef likes to use his nova/discord deck so i don't think we will see that.

They had 2 earthquake graboid decks but they lost with one of them so i think they will consolidate it down to 1 deck now.

They also have a a steal/devourer deck but i don't really see them using that against us.

Fractal/Scarab deck.



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Re: Rounds 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15663.msg200625#msg200625
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2010, 11:00:05 pm »
All Intel topics updated (those that we fight, at least.)
 :air: Even the blind can see that they go mostly for pendulum duos. Last round was probably crippling for them, they won only two while losing seven games. They love entropy and darkness duos, they often use aether too. No idea what to use though.

 :aether: There is a good chance they will use the fractal mind flayer again. It works.. why not use it? Of course, they could try to surprise us and go for something totally different.

 :earth: both times they fought poison-using element (Water and Death) they used that earth/death poison till deckout deck. They are right behind us in vault size, so we should try to beat them. :)

 :gravity: Gravity is messed up and have most likely discarded the purifies they used in first round. I'd take something like we did in first round perhaps.

 :time: 3 games vs the same team is never good. :( But they are not entropy at least, and we have some chance. I'm sure they will take reverse times/eternities against us to disable our mummies. I don't think they have purify (I doubt holy lights too), so we could try poison. Most of their duos are with fire, darkness and earth.

 :light also likes fire duos. They could try the water/light duo again.

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Re: Rounds 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15663.msg200636#msg200636
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2010, 11:07:57 pm »
Fuuuuuuuu entropy

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Re: Rounds 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15663.msg200642#msg200642
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2010, 11:11:25 pm »
Entropy.. *sighs* Totally forgot about them. Damn it, I want an entropy-free round for once.  :-X

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Re: Rounds 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15663.msg200645#msg200645
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2010, 11:13:15 pm »
Gravity does have some purifies left.  They won with this deck last round.
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I expect they will use something like this minus the upgrades and possible with more chargers to get past bone wall.

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Re: Rounds 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15663.msg200674#msg200674
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2010, 11:36:39 pm »
For aether i'm thinking a darkness/steal deck and a fire deck with RoF/explosions would work fairly well.

For my matchup fractal/spiders may not be a bad way to go.

Gravity, maybe fire with our rage pots and plagues?

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Re: Rounds 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15663.msg200868#msg200868
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2010, 06:44:30 am »
For Light, the same deck as last time should work just as well.
Gravity, heavy CC, either Rage Pots or Antimatter
Time, speed poison maybe?
I don't like thinking about :entropy

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Re: Rounds 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15663.msg201083#msg201083
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2010, 05:26:29 pm »
Two deck ideas against :aether, tested vs fractal flayer and flayer/dragon decks.

The one I really like:

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And the one I don't like that much, good vs fractal but not so good vs the dragon deck:

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We tested the first one with -1 shield, -1 mummy and +2 spiders, and it worked great.

I used spiders because I think we won't have enough mummies to use all here, and the main damage are the dragons anyway.
Feel free to tweak them, I'm sure you guys can make them better.


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:gravity: probably something like the deck I used first round. They have at least 2 purifies so I am pretty sure they will use those against us. I doubt BH/Discord as they have 2 aether, 1 light and 1 time matchup this round, and discord is a lot better vs those. Flying titan is doubtful as well because they lost with it in round 2, and they may have discarded the flying weapons.
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This is the deck I used. Lightnings are better than rage pots because they are cheaper, therefor easier to splash. Remove the poisons, add more creatures.
Btw they also fight Water this round, which means they could probably use their purifies there, or split.. But I say no to poison.

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:time
- They haven't used a single purify yet, which means probably they don't have any. -> POISON! I say try a speed poison in one matchup (freeze pharaohs, dragons and phoenixes), it should work. Lots of control can screw it though.

- Death/Time deck with mummies and pharaohs and such for reverse time protection. Probably wouldn't work.

- Death/Entropy should also work with Discord if they are not using immolations, antimatter for possible dragons or other nasty things.

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:earth

Since I doubt they would use the same deck again (the R1 one), we should probably take lots of cheap CC to kill/disable possible graboids/other creatures and deflags to destroy anything nasty. Antimatters would be very good, but a discord (if they go with graboidbow) can prevent us from playing them. Swarming with creatures is also a good idea.


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Re: Rounds 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15663.msg201347#msg201347
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2010, 11:38:26 pm »


Great info!

 
Personaly i think about using :entropy stall deck here, but it's up to you. Chaos seeds, antimatter, novas to protect from discord, maybe 1-2 entropy shielg/bonewalls

They have 1 purify so even sth similar to speed poison could work but probably we gonna use it against time

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Re: Rounds 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15663.msg201356#msg201356
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2010, 11:53:31 pm »
That :earth deck had any CC?

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Re: Rounds 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15663.msg201778#msg201778
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2010, 06:30:00 pm »
This is my current deck against :entropy . It can overpower pandemonium/diss shield stall, and it can fight off discord rush IF discord gives me 6 quanta for the shield. Cards used are those that we can live without mostly. I did use 4 aether towers which we need to salvage from one of the decks in this round.

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