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Round 8 Battles https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34296.msg432529#msg432529
« on: November 30, 2011, 12:22:05 am »
Gen. Jaymanfu vs :earth CCCOmbobreaker
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Re: Round 8 Battles https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34296.msg432707#msg432707
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2011, 05:50:56 am »
Well, the decks for this round really depends on what event card we use. So first we need to choose an event card.
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Re: Round 8 Battles https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34296.msg432715#msg432715
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2011, 06:09:05 am »
yep exaclty what I thought during my breakfast :)
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Re: Round 8 Battles https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34296.msg433044#msg433044
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2011, 11:49:47 pm »
Mock version 1 (Choosing the first event card)

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Discard
mrblondes deck - all but (1 lightning, 5 pillars)
Roots deck - 5 bone pillars, 1 flesh spider
jippys deck - 2 poison, 2 arsenic, 1 mummy, 1 spider


Actual discards
Mrblondes - 6 nova, 2 bone pillars, 2 bonewall, 4 graboid, 1 forest spirit, 5 flesh spiders, 1 arsenic, 2 deflags, 1 steal = 24

Roots - 6 mummy, 7 death pend, 1 dusk mantle, 2 steal, 1 nightmare, 2 cloak, 2 flesh spiders, 1 eclipse, 2 vamp daggers = 24

jippy - 1 lycan, 5 nova, 2 skull shield, 7 death pends, 4 graboids, 3 earthquake, 1 forest spirit, 1 deflag = 24


Salvage
Air - 6 lightnings
Time - 1 aether pillar, 3 fractal, 2 titanium shield


(24)Conversion (10 poison, 2 bonewall, 2 arsenic, 1 spider, 1 mummy, 8 more death cards for a wings deck left in vault or enough for a 2nd fractal deck)

2 fractal
1 fog shield
2 plague
2 earth pends
4 titanium shield
3 earthquake
6 stoneskin
1 nova
1 graboid
1 steal
1 vamp dagger

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4 dim shield
3 fractal
6 wings
6 flesh spider
6 mummy

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Re: Round 8 Battles https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34296.msg433223#msg433223
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2011, 05:06:25 am »
I think we need to keep a Grabbow in our vault. Just one.
If teams find out we're out of Grabbows, they can really hit us hard with Denial. A DiscEQ with 2 explosions and 1 steal, for example, beats everything we have but Grabbow. I feel like the right Grabbow can really work well against Gravity, and it's important to our vault.
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Re: Round 8 Battles https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34296.msg433225#msg433225
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2011, 05:08:59 am »
I think we need to keep a Grabbow in our vault. Just one.
If teams find out we're out of Grabbows, they can really hit us hard with Denial. A DiscEQ with 2 explosions and 1 steal, for example, beats everything we have but Grabbow. I feel like the right Grabbow can really work well against Gravity, and it's important to our vault.
I think keeping a grabbow puts us in a tough situation with what we have left in our vault.  Keeping a grabbow means discarding most death cards in the two grabbows that lost.  Even if we take the first event card, that still really hurts us.
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Re: Round 8 Battles https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34296.msg433227#msg433227
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2011, 05:14:35 am »
The first Event card allows us to recover the Death cards we discarded.
We're down to 3 battles. We'll probably be down to 2 next round. Being stuck with 2 copies of the same deck isn't going to get us anywhere.
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Re: Round 8 Battles https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34296.msg433266#msg433266
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2011, 07:13:04 am »
As Root said I think that keeping twice the same aether/death duo isn’t a good idea, moreover everyone knows how good grabby decks are. Anyway I like my deck vs aether with those upped poison, that’s just what I wanted to use  we can kill gravy with a grabow IMO.
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Re: Round 8 Battles https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34296.msg433293#msg433293
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2011, 09:16:46 am »
There is a decent chance that :gravity has wings in there vault and id hate for us to lose another grabby deck to wings, but if you want build me a good model of what you'd like and ill try to rework it all and see if it comes out right

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Re: Round 8 Battles https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34296.msg433316#msg433316
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2011, 01:15:55 pm »
We can beat Wings with 2 explosions and an improved steal in our Grabbow. Poisons would help too.
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Re: Round 8 Battles https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34296.msg433676#msg433676
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2011, 02:51:33 am »
Here are the changes I would like to make. I think these overall improve the decks.

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These are only small changes, but I think they improve it a little. The new version has just as much creature damage, but it the damage comes out faster and it is more evenly distributed - 2 Dragons will be major CC targets. It adds in a 4th Bonewall while being able to pay for it at the cost of slightly less poison damage.

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I dropped a Plague and added a BoneWall. Without a Bonewall, the deck doesn't start as well.
I also switched the upgrades. 1 upped BoneWall helps us sometimes play a Bonewall turn 3, when we also likely have lightning. The Arsenics improve more when upgraded.

Here are the new Discards we need.

jippy's deck:
Everything but 3 Graboids, 2 Explosions, 1 Lycan (for backup next round).

MrBlonde's deck:
Everything but 5 Novas, 1 Forest Spirit.


If we use too many Poisons, we can use some Dragons instead for our Earth deck I guess.
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Re: Round 8 Battles https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34296.msg433813#msg433813
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2011, 09:09:49 am »
Well I did all the work and this is the best I could come up with really, its pretty close made it work with only minor changes, though 1 that could cost us a game if they play it right.

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Changes: 5 bone pillars > 5 death pends (just hope they don't play EQ lol)

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Changes: -1 poison +1 death pend (had to do it and it was semi low on death quantum anyways)

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Now the good stuff.... only other real thing is I couldn't keep that lycan you wanted. Our remaining vault isn't quite as good, a wings or dim shield deck with not too many creatures, but what can u do.


Discard (keeping 6)
Mrblonde - 4 nova, 1 deflag, 1 forest spirit
RootRanger - 5 pillars, 1 spider
Jippy - 3 grabby, 1 defalg, 1 nova, 1 spider


Actual Discard (discarding cards not kept)
Mrblonde - 2 nova, 7 bone pillar, 2 bonewall, 4 graboid, 1 lightning, 5 flesh spiders, 1 arsenic, 1 deflag, 1 steal = 24

RootRanger - 6 mummy, 6 death pends, 1 dusk mantle, 2 steal, 1 nightmare, 2 cloak, 3 flesh spiders, 1 eclipse, 2 vamp daggers = 24

jippy - 4 nova, 2 skull shield, 2 poison, 2 arsenic, 1 mummy, 7 death pends 1 graboid, 3 earthquake, 1 forest spirit, 1 flesh spider = 24


Salvage(6 cards)
Air - 6 Lightning
Time - 1 aether pillar, 3 fractal, 2 titanium shields


Conversion(24) (4 spiders, 15 poison, 2 bonewall, 3 arsenic)
4 fractal
1 fog shield
1 vamp dagger
3 plague
3 earthquake
6 stoneskin
4 titanium shield
2 earth pends


Remaining in vault(32)
2 lightning
6 dim shield
3 fractal
1 aether pillar
6 wings
7 death pends
3 mummy
4 bone dragon






 

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