Round 7 - Decks

[xn0ize]

sorry for not helping at all, worse days ever for me..

[kev]

Typing from my phone and doing a lot less research than usual so take my thoughts with a grain of salt.

So talking with SS i think i like these decks,

MrBlonde vs = Earth stall or grabbow/EQ
I imagine they don't have so few cards left we can guess at their decks.  If that is the case my mind always jumps to squids/puffers first, and I don't think EQ deck has enough cc or speed to compete.  I guess they'd take something else if they're expecting fractal, though.
Kevkev vs = Dim/Lightning
Life is short on cards so we might concentrate on countering their available deck options.  My hunch is that you guys have already done so and dims does that.
Xnoize vs = Lets steal their junk!
Just as we should try to predict Life's decks, Aether will try to predict ours.  That's why I love the Dark duo. Not to mention it's a good standalone deck versus Aether.
Marv vs = Fractal
They seem to have figured out that poisonbolt is their best deck against the Anti-Fire deck.  Maybe.  If they play poisonbolt again, fractal mummies is not fast enough.

[SteppingStone81]

we could play the anti-fire deck vs fire ... i think it beats poison bolt (xn0ize and maybe xdude tested this way back in the beginning).

then, we could either use fractal (with recluses) vs water or use a grabbow.

[kev]

we could play the anti-fire deck vs fire ... i think it beats poison bolt (xn0ize and maybe xdude tested this way back in the beginning).

then, we could either use fractal (with recluses) vs water or use a grabbow.

Jesus it's hard to type on this piece of crap.

It was xn and I who tested poisonbolt versus Anti-Fire.  We consistently lose that match.

To summarize my post above I'd recommend Fire duo versus Water and a 36-card rush w/6 RTs splashed versus Fire.  If we can do that.

[SteppingStone81]

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Upgrading titanium shields to diamond shields stops pufferfish, so the earth duo may still be quite viable vs water.  In any case, I am not sure we can salvage enough fire cards to make a fire duo without discarding other critical cards (mummies, arsenic, bone walls, poison).

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Re: the fire matchup, we could still salvage purifies and put a grabbow there.  Due to the event card, we can build a 36 card grabbow and drop 6 death cards, so we only need 12 death cards in the version that we actually play in the match.


Note: we can salvage a total of 4 purifies, and either spread them across the water and fire matchups or put them all in one or the other.

[Marvaddin]

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This is the version Im testing now, the Fractal is now hard to stop, but the death quanta is low. The dragons are useless, can I change them for pillars? Or maybe can I use some more pends?

[SteppingStone81]

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ok, here is a new version:

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you can drop arsenic and poisons, or keep them in deck if you think they'd be useful.

[Marvaddin]

In my tests, I still feel short death quanta. Can I have more pillars or pends? And an extra mummy, if its not ask too much

Im going most probably drop poison and shields, and keep Arsenic.

[SteppingStone81]

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ok, turned a pendulum to a pillar (don't have more available) and dropped the poisons, even as options

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skull shields offer an option, but dropping them for game 1 seems fine.  there are currently no more arsenic to spare


p.s.  What do you think about other alternative decks for your matchup?  We could field a grabbow with only 12 death cards, or we could field a death rush + reverse time as kevkev suggested.

[Marvaddin]

This lack of pillars sucks a lot. I think I would need at least 2 more pillars.

Other decks? Post them and I will have a better opinion, but I think RT can possibly not work, in case they use a bolt deck. Grabbow can be interesting, but do we have enough cards?

[SteppingStone81]

might be able to get you more pillars if we thin the earth stall.  or, we could eschew the earth stall and use a grabbow vs water ... then you will have loads of pillars for whatever you use vs fire. 

p.s. - in team chat now with kevkev

[SteppingStone81]

After discussion with kevkev and Marv, here is an alternative set of decks for next round:

NOTE:  attached is spreadsheet with salvage, discard, conversion decisions allowing for each alternate set of builds

Mrblonde vs. RavingRabbid (Gen)

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"shapeshift" - we will add 6 leftover death cards to make this deck legal, then drop them for match

e.g.,

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Kevkev vs. wizelsnarf (Gen)

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"shapeshift" - (normal flavor)

"shapeshift" - (fractal rush flavor)

"shapeshift" - (dim shield flavor) - drop 4x fractal, 2x aether pillar

xn0ize vs. Higurashi (Gen)

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"shapeshift" - can drop 2 dusk mantles and 3 death pendula"shapeshift" - can drop plagues and BW

Marvaddin vs. Majofa ( Lt.)

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"shapeshift" - if they play poison bolt, can drop 5 RT and 1 BW"shapeshift" - if they use immo deck, can use RTs to cripple them

Leftovers

Cards remaining in vault after building these decks:

4 x (bone pillar / death pendulum) ~ depends on what we want3 x virus2 x skull shield1 x bone wall2 x arsenic1 x fractal2 x titanium shield5 x earthquake6 x stone skin