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Round 7 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26550.msg337513#msg337513
« on: May 20, 2011, 04:51:32 pm »
Matchups for round 7
:death Mrblonde
:water RavingRabbid (Gen)
:death Kevkev
:life wizelsnarf (Gen)
:death xn0ize
:aether Higurashi (Gen)
:death Marvaddin
:fire Majofa ( Lt.)
 


MrBlonde (General)
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Xnoize
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Re: Round 7 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26550.msg337659#msg337659
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2011, 09:27:46 pm »
Here are all the possible decks we can field (some mutually exclusive):
    earth stall (anti-fire)death rush w/ EQspandeboniumgrabbowdarkness duo w/ dusk mantle and stealsfractal recluseaether duo w/ lightnings and dim shieldsreverse time deckfire duo w/ RP and deflags
:death Mrblonde vs. :water RavingRabbid (Gen)
They beat us with poison last time.  We could likely outrush that deck with fractal flesh spiders plus viruses for CC.  We can drop the viruses if they seem useless.

:death Kevkev vs. :life wizelsnarf (Gen)
We can revive pandebonium this round; if we do so, this is where it makes the most sense.  Otherwise, we could play a 36-card aether duo with 6 dim shields and 6 lightnings.  Depending on the matchup we can drop the lightnings or the dim shields.

:death xn0ize vs. :aether Higurashi (Gen)
They went pestal last round, and may do so again here.  If we choose to salvage sanctuaries at all, this is where we should play them.  Grabbow can be salvaged ... if we do, it could work here.  Simple darkness duo could work here as well.

:death Marvaddin vs. :fire Majofa ( Lt.)
They successfully used poison bolt against us last round.  If we think they will do so again, we could try countering with a creatureless earth duo (anti-fire can be salvaged due to Zblader's generous gift of stone skins).  The earth duo seems like a decent choice against many of their decks.  Also possible would be a reverse time deck.

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Re: Round 7 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26550.msg337884#msg337884
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2011, 07:40:34 am »
Hi guys,

Sorry i haven't been around. Today has been crazy for me and this weekend is gonna be super busy. I will be back tomorrow night to work on decks.

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Re: Round 7 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26550.msg338421#msg338421
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2011, 05:09:16 am »
We really need to start working...
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Re: Round 7 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26550.msg338425#msg338425
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2011, 05:24:17 am »
We really need to start working...
Ok.  What are your thoughts on the matchups?  What decks should we salvage / build?

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Re: Round 7 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26550.msg338443#msg338443
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2011, 06:47:05 am »
Here are all the possible decks we can field (some mutually exclusive):
    earth stall (anti-fire)death rush w/ EQspandeboniumgrabbowdarkness duo w/ dusk mantle and stealsfractal recluseaether duo w/ lightnings and dim shieldsreverse time deckfire duo w/ RP and deflags
:death Mrblonde vs. :water RavingRabbid (Gen)
They beat us with poison last time.  We could likely outrush that deck with fractal flesh spiders plus viruses for CC.  We can drop the viruses if they seem useless.

I would love to use fractal here but i really think they are completely expecting this here especially since that's what i used vs RR last time. Although fractal spiders is pretty hard to stop, I think death rush with EQ's might work here.

:death Kevkev vs. :life wizelsnarf (Gen)
We can revive pandebonium this round; if we do so, this is where it makes the most sense.  Otherwise, we could play a 36-card aether duo with 6 dim shields and 6 lightnings.  Depending on the matchup we can drop the lightnings or the dim shields.

I like the dim shield/lightning option. Especially if they use adrenaline vs us again.

:death xn0ize vs. :aether Higurashi (Gen)
They went pestal last round, and may do so again here.  If we choose to salvage sanctuaries at all, this is where we should play them.  Grabbow can be salvaged ... if we do, it could work here.  Simple darkness duo could work here as well.

Darkness duo would be my vote.

:death Marvaddin vs. :fire Majofa ( Lt.)
They successfully used poison bolt against us last round.  If we think they will do so again, we could try countering with a creatureless earth duo (anti-fire can be salvaged due to Zblader's generous gift of stone skins).  The earth duo seems like a decent choice against many of their decks.  Also possible would be a reverse time deck.
I think i like the anti-fire stall here although that likely means for my water matchup i need to figure out another deck.

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Re: Round 7 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26550.msg338448#msg338448
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2011, 07:07:03 am »
So talking with SS i think i like these decks,

MrBlonde vs :water = Earth stall or grabbow/EQ
Kevkev vs :life = Dim/Lightning
Xnoize vs :aether = Lets steal their junk!
Marv vs :fire = Fractal

Re: Round 7 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26550.msg338650#msg338650
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2011, 06:15:22 pm »
After discussion with MrBlonde and xn0ize, here is a possible set of decks for next round:


:death Mrblonde vs. :water RavingRabbid (Gen)

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    "shapeshift" - can drop EQs"shapeshift" - can drop novas"shapeshift" - can drop some pendula

:death Kevkev vs. :life wizelsnarf (Gen)

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    "shapeshift" - can drop some number lightnings or dim shields"shapeshift" - can drop plagues

:death xn0ize vs. :aether Higurashi (Gen)

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    "shapeshift" - can drop 2 dusk mantles and 3 death pendula"shapeshift" - can drop 4 poisons (and 2 arsenic)

:death Marvaddin vs. :fire Majofa ( Lt.)

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    "shapeshift" - can drop skull shield(s)

Leftovers

Cards remaining in vault after building these decks:
    2 x
[bone pillar / death pendulum] ~ depends on what we want2 x mummy1 x skull shield3 x poison2 x random cards (currently keeping 2 x graboid)[/list]
We can tweak the salvage / discard a little bit to get more bone dragons / skull shields at the expense of mummies / arsenic / poison.

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Re: Round 7 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26550.msg338670#msg338670
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2011, 07:07:18 pm »
I think I cant defeat Majofa with this deck. I have tested it vs AI3, 5 wins (1 with exact damage and I would lose next turn) and 5 losses. The death quanta supply looks a bit short. The shields are not that realiable and are usually flooding my hand. Bone Wall could be better (if we had some to spare). The viruses look unnecessary, and the dragons are usually not played, because the quanta goes to play mummies.

The deck has 35 cards, but I think we should use 30, having some as side deck, possibly the viruses.

Edit: -2 Shields -3 Virus: looks a bit better now.

Re: Round 7 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26550.msg338679#msg338679
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2011, 07:28:19 pm »
I think I cant defeat Majofa with this deck. I have tested it vs AI3, 5 wins (1 with exact damage and I would lose next turn) and 5 losses. The death quanta supply looks a bit short. The shields are not that realiable and are usually flooding my hand. Bone Wall could be better (if we had some to spare). The viruses look unnecessary, and the dragons are usually not played, because the quanta goes to play mummies.

The deck has 35 cards, but I think we should use 30, having some as side deck, possibly the viruses.

Edit: -2 Shields -3 Virus: looks a bit better now.
The event card this round lets you drop any 6 cards from your deck before a match.  I put extra cards in the deck to give it more flexibility, but I would expect you will play a 30-card deck each round.

To the base deck, would you recommend +2 bone pillars -1 skull shield?  Then you can drop further skull shields if they are unnecessary (and the viruses).

edit:  all 6 bone walls are being used in MrBlonde's deck currently.  I initially thought bone walls would be tough in your deck since it is already strapped for death quanta, but fractal viruses + bone walls could swing the match in your favour.

Looking forward to more feedback on these decks from everyone!

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Re: Round 7 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26550.msg338684#msg338684
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2011, 07:36:11 pm »
Sure, 4 Shields is too much. I would prefer 1 Bone Pillar and 1 Aether if possible. In fact, a thing that worries me a lot: normally the starting hand has 1 Aether Pillar, and a deflag can delay the strategy a lot. Cant I use some Pendulum instead? Also, we will have a bad time if he plays Fire Shield.

Another 10 games vs AI3: 9-1, the loss duw to bad luck drawing death pillars.

Edit: maybe changing mark to aether?

Re: Round 7 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26550.msg338687#msg338687
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2011, 07:38:44 pm »
Sure, 4 Shields is too much. I would prefer 1 Bone Pillar and 1 Aether if possible. In fact, a thing that worries me a lot: normally the starting hand has 1 Aether Pillar, and a deflag can delay the strategy a lot. Cant I use some Pendulum instead? Also, we will have a bad time if he plays Fire Shield.

Another 10 games vs AI3: 9-1, the loss duw to bad luck drawing death pillars.
edit: moved to spoiler
well, we have only 7 aether pendula, BUT we can change to aether mark and add a few death pendula ...

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