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Re: Round 6 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26197.msg334791#msg334791
« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2011, 05:15:02 pm »
The deck choices are not, I don't believe, final ... i think we are going to try to finalize in team chat around GMT 1800 if ppl can make it.

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Re: Round 6 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26197.msg334833#msg334833
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2011, 06:51:31 pm »
In fact, I feel this is a suicide deck.
Our vault is stretched to the max.  Step and the others have done a great job of putting together eight functioning decks, which is more than most other teams will accomplish.  If you have constructive ideas please share them.  If you have nothing constructive to say just don't comment at all. 
I know we are using almost all the vault. And I know a good job was done, considering the situation. I just dont think I will have much chances of victory. And like you already have probably realized, I stopped to comment in the deck discussions when some people in the team started to act like they are pros and the only ones with brains. Thanks for remembering me that, I will stop commenting again, like u asked.

Re: Round 6 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26197.msg334836#msg334836
« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2011, 06:58:54 pm »
I know we are using almost all the vault. And I know a good job was done, considering the situation. I just dont think I will have much chances of victory. And like you already have probably realized, I stopped to comment in the deck discussions when some people in the team started to act like they are pros and the only ones with brains. Thanks for remembering me that, I will stop commenting again, like u asked.
If you play the deck well, you should have reasonable chances of victory.  Just be flexible in how you use your rewinds based on what Zeru brings, and be careful with how you use the novas.

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Re: Round 6 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26197.msg334871#msg334871
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2011, 07:51:39 pm »
I will surely not waste rewinds in worthless creatures, but would like to hear from you what you exactly means by being careful about use the novas.

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Re: Round 6 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26197.msg334882#msg334882
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2011, 08:07:27 pm »
In fact, I feel this is a suicide deck.
Our vault is stretched to the max.  Step and the others have done a great job of putting together eight functioning decks, which is more than most other teams will accomplish.  If you have constructive ideas please share them.  If you have nothing constructive to say just don't comment at all. 
I know we are using almost all the vault. And I know a good job was done, considering the situation. I just dont think I will have much chances of victory. And like you already have probably realized, I stopped to comment in the deck discussions when some people in the team started to act like they are pros and the only ones with brains. Thanks for remembering me that, I will stop commenting again, like u asked.
kev has the right to talk like that, we did alot of work, every one in the team helps , but whining about the deck wont get us no where, we are very tight in our vault , and we broke our head to make these decks, so yeah... , don't take things so personally , no one started to act like pros, tell me 1 person.
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Re: Round 6 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26197.msg334894#msg334894
« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2011, 08:21:18 pm »
In fact, I feel this is a suicide deck.
Our vault is stretched to the max.  Step and the others have done a great job of putting together eight functioning decks, which is more than most other teams will accomplish.  If you have constructive ideas please share them.  If you have nothing constructive to say just don't comment at all. 
I know we are using almost all the vault. And I know a good job was done, considering the situation. I just dont think I will have much chances of victory. And like you already have probably realized, I stopped to comment in the deck discussions when some people in the team started to act like they are pros and the only ones with brains. Thanks for remembering me that, I will stop commenting again, like u asked.
kev has the right to talk like that, we did alot of work, every one in the team helps , but whining about the deck wont get us no where, we are very tight in our vault , and we broke our head to make these decks, so yeah... , don't take things so personally , no one started to act like pros, tell me 1 person.
Great, so he has the right to talk like that, but I dont have the right to talk like I did. Whos taking things personally here? What I did? Just because I said I probably wont win using the deck? Cause you guys did a incredibly superb work? Good. At least I will show some respect for opinions from other people.

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Re: Round 6 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26197.msg334896#msg334896
« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2011, 08:24:49 pm »
just come to the chat , i don't want this disccusion on the forum, k?..
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Re: Round 6 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26197.msg334923#msg334923
« Reply #31 on: May 16, 2011, 08:47:32 pm »
I cant, Im at work.

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Re: Round 6 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26197.msg334928#msg334928
« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2011, 08:53:30 pm »
Alright all lets just play nice please.

Re: Round 6 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26197.msg334937#msg334937
« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2011, 09:06:08 pm »
At least I will show some respect for opinions from other people.
I feel that MrBlonde, kevkev, and our team has tried to listen to opinions from everyone.  This doesn't mean everyone will always get their way.  Whoever is stuck at the deadline finalizing decks (usually MrBlonde and xn0ize) must make some tough calls while at the same time managing the vault and salvage, double-checking everything, etc.

I guess my point is this: if you have some ways to improve the decks or deck choices, the opinions are more than welcome.  e.g., if you think time duo does not work against Zeru, where should we put it?  If you think decks can be improved, here are the remaining cards in the vault which one could use:
    4 x steal2 x dusk mantle4 x graboid1 x rewind
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    >=50% death cards>=35 cards
I'll say it again: feedback very much appreciated.

p.s. - here are a couple examples of using rewinds carefully:
    using multiple rewinds in the same turn to bury creatures in opponent's deck (e.g., rewind a cheap creature first then rewind a big creature so opponent can't play the cheap creature again right away)rewind your own mummy in the right situation to unleash a scarab swarm, but only in the right situation

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Re: Round 6 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26197.msg335004#msg335004
« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2011, 10:01:05 pm »
I got these points a long time ago, in fact, Im not so stupid. I didnt said "suicide deck" doing it personal, I didnt said anyone was fool or unskilled, nor said you guys didnt do a good job, nor said I wouldnt play the deck. I even consider we need create 8 decks using almost entire vault and there are other duels that also require playable decks, and I know some other duels can have some priority, because have more winning chance vs decks that dont use upped cards. I just said I think I will most probably lose, so no need to really expect a victory, it was no offense to anyone, and in fact I didnt think about alternatives, because u guys do it well, are probably more skilled in PvP, and so tend to disconsider what I talk (sometimes with some arrogance, I feel), reason enough to me stop thinking about the rounds as I tried at the start. But, when I see my deck and I imagine most probable options Zeru will use (some upped cards added), Im not allowed to tell my team mates I have a bad feeling about the incoming battle without you throw stones at me? More and more I see you guys can do it all by yourselves. I will shut up and wont even give my opinions about the decks (did it already last round already, can do it easily next rounds).

Bye for now. Going offline for like 1 day. Good discussion with the decks.

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Re: Round 6 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26197.msg335550#msg335550
« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2011, 05:11:11 pm »
I got these points a long time ago, in fact, Im not so stupid. I didnt said "suicide deck" doing it personal, I didnt said anyone was fool or unskilled, nor said you guys didnt do a good job, nor said I wouldnt play the deck. I even consider we need create 8 decks using almost entire vault and there are other duels that also require playable decks, and I know some other duels can have some priority, because have more winning chance vs decks that dont use upped cards. I just said I think I will most probably lose, so no need to really expect a victory, it was no offense to anyone, and in fact I didnt think about alternatives, because u guys do it well, are probably more skilled in PvP, and so tend to disconsider what I talk (sometimes with some arrogance, I feel), reason enough to me stop thinking about the rounds as I tried at the start. But, when I see my deck and I imagine most probable options Zeru will use (some upped cards added), Im not allowed to tell my team mates I have a bad feeling about the incoming battle without you throw stones at me? More and more I see you guys can do it all by yourselves. I will shut up and wont even give my opinions about the decks (did it already last round already, can do it easily next rounds).

Bye for now. Going offline for like 1 day. Good discussion with the decks.
They didn't call you stupid or anything. They just pointed out what's good to have in mind. We all know how much is 2+2, but it never hurts to remember. (Or something.)

Nonetheless, we're all, as a team, supposed to see the bright side of :death (... sounds a little weird) when we can. Sure, we all have that "Maybe I'll screw this up" or "I don't feel like I can win" feeling, but we gotta try hard.
To the "all by yourselves", that might be true. But team work is crucial if we want to succeed(or something like that). It's better for the whole team to stick together, instead of having one of us, be it Mrblonde, me or you just drop out and stop talking.

While you weren't exactly right or wrong, the other half wasn't exactly right or wrong.

That deck isn't a suicide deck, it's just that it has lots of strategies. You should play carefully. That deck is not a suicide deck ( I doubt anyone here would put 6 mummies in a suicide deck, but anyway- ), and while it does have it's flaws, it's a good deck. Rewind the opponent if needed, don't throw your nova's out if you sense BH, no need to rewind mummies if you don't need to, etc.

On the other side, the other half of the team coulda just gave him his answers, instead of just over-looking at that "I feel this is a suicide deck" quote that has been going on for 1 page. We all know the team is working very hard and that the deck-builder(s) made a great job of putting together 8 functional decks, and there's no need to be (And sorry, but this is true) rude to the person who said that. After all, we're all human, right?

 

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