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*** DISCARDS *** https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60237.msg1212455#msg1212455
« on: October 26, 2015, 06:56:57 pm »
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Rob's ideas for SDCTP... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60237.msg1212459#msg1212459
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2015, 07:08:12 pm »
I suggest:

Discards:
Fire duo:
Discard all except x2 spider x2 dragon

Mummy-tal:
Discard all except x1 Arsenic

Nova-bow:
Discard all except x5 Nova x2 Chrys (note: the two SoP were essentially 'extra' in-vault already)

Wings duo:
Discard all except x3 Wings x1 dragon x1 spider (note: this leaves us FIVE wings - enough to build a functional Wings duo still!)




Salvage:
from RoL/Hope/SoP (:light):
Keep only x4 Fractal <-- this card is VERY strong in war and death has GREAT targets... we have plenty of mummies remaining! ;D
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Re: *** DISCARDS *** https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60237.msg1212484#msg1212484
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2015, 11:58:33 pm »
fire deck: It ain't good no matter how we cut it.  No combination of 4 fire cards saves this deck, so keep 4 death cards.  3 recluse and 1 whatever. FOUR is the correct qty of "keep" cards here.  I included just 2 Recluse and bumped to (2) Dragons as we are very low on dragons as death's real big hitter (Recluse _CAN_ be subbed nearly flawlessly by Mummy).

fractal/dim deck: keep a dimshield.  we have 7 fractals and can spare 2. ONE is the correct qyt of "keep" cards here.  Keeping (1) Dim does not help us much but keeping 1 Arsenic increases our vault Arse's by 50% (up to 3)!

chrysaora deck: keep dials There should be SEVEN "keep" cards from this - "keep dials" is off the mark of qty to keep. ;D
Refer below/bottom for commentary on this...


wings deck: keep 5 wings FIVE is the correct qty of "keep" cards here.  I had a bit different but could agree on increasing my suggestion by +1 Wings -1 Spider.  Keeping just (4) Wings leaves us at 6 - or a full deck of Wings.  Going just five would leave us very low on spiders/dragons.

salvage: ugh, too bad the good stuff in this deck just happens to be almost exact copies of our only good stuff left.  1 SoP, 1 Miracle, 2 fractal seems okay, but it could vary without really mattering. I could get on board with your (1) SoP (1) Miracle (2) Fractal instead of my four Fractal.  Keep in mind if we know they don't have a good shield then a simple x4 Fractal plus Death-stuff is a totally good an viable deck (i.e. - let's try to NEVER run out of Fractal completely until we are vanquished!).  This was my goal on the fractals...

(did all this without looking at rob's choices, gonna check that now)

Okay, rob's choices look pretty similar to mine, except for the novabow, where we differ greatly.  I guess we simply have to make a choice; do we want a functional grabbow, or a pdial type thing left?   Yes, this is the choice -- ability to field grabbow/nova-bows or Pdials/Dial-decks... Pdials unfortunately takes a lot of upgrades, so rob's choice has merit in that sense.   Also, PDials is countered quite well by the typical/standard Death War-counter... Purify.  Also, if we did dump the novas, we would essentially 'strand' some of our cards in vault as useless (graboids, lycan). This can be remedied later if we HAVE to suicide by using the stranded cards in that one.  However, I prefer not stranding and staying a bit more flexible with Nova-bow ability.  We already have a quite good Lightstall left in-vault so PDials is not _requisite_ to keep at this point. Note also that many other teams are likely to expect us to still have a PDials remaining since I've garnered the stereotype of Master of PDials. ;)

Also note that my choices do not appear to be taking into account the correct number of cards remaining in the vault; I'm not sure why some of the numbers are different, unless rob has already edited in his choices for now. (like I know we had 12 dims last round, but now it says 6). I have already edited my choices in as a head start just to see what it could look like.  They are not set in stone yet though... :)

EDIT: rob's notes mod-edited in above, as color = #9966ff.

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Re: *** DISCARDS *** https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60237.msg1212489#msg1212489
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2015, 12:21:59 am »
I added purple scribbles all over dragons' previous post...
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Re: *** DISCARDS *** https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60237.msg1212496#msg1212496
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2015, 02:01:40 am »
Given the last post, I think the only possible change would be to the novabow to salvage 5 novas and 2 arsenics, since I don't think 2 chrysaora will really help all that much.  And looking at the vault, we haven't even used the ghostmare or the paradolls yet, and at least for the first we need the novas.

 

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