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jippy99 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 07, 2011, 01:46:52 am »

My thoughts on a couple of these matches:
UW: Grabbow, especially with 9 upgrades, will destroy them.
Life: Anything we have used against them works.
Fire: Bonebolt might work here.
Earth: Idk how we beat them.

RootRanger · « **Reply #3 on:** November 07, 2011, 03:04:31 am »

Here's what I recommend for Life. We used Dims last round and I think Life has nothing in their vault to get past them.

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Let's look at Life's R4 decks.
Firestall - 3 Fractals and 3 Recluses is enough creatures to break through the defense. Unless this has major draw problems, I can't see how it would lose.
Healing - A field full of recluses isn't going to be stopped by a couple staves. Did I mention they can't damage us at all?
Rainbow - Unless they deny us from playing dimshields the entire game, this match is ours.
Wings - This deck easily stalls with dimshields until it can fractal the lone dragon.

MrBlonde · « **Reply #4 on:** November 07, 2011, 09:42:46 pm »

alright my thoughts.

UW - Pretty odd that UW went all rainbow decks. I thought they would have at least packed a couple duos. Tstar will definitely take their best deck vs Gravity(probably the discord deck sans steel golems because of gravity shield). Only thing that worries me is that Tstar is pretty smart and he probably assumes we will use the grabbow. Also my card advantage here is only three. Too bad we don't have pandabonium, i think it would have worked great here. With that said our grabbow should be much stronger.

Life - There matchups probably dictate they put there strongest deck vs earth since Willing is playing them. Akala is playing ToRB so not sure what they will do here. The deck Root suggested should be good here.

Air - They play both earth's general and entropy's lieut. Likely if they are giving up any strength in decks it will be there. Fortunately we don't have to deal with their general or lieut. Looking at all their decks i think our earth stall should be able to beat any of their decks. Forest scorpions are null once diamond goes up and plagues make quick work of them. Their light stall obv own't beat our stall. That weird blue nymph deck doesn't have enough dmg with just one immo, so really only the dragon deck is to be worried about but it should be able to handle it.

Crap gotta head back to work so will add more later.

Alrighty back.. for a little bit at least.

Gravity - Gravity did not get any favors ending up with 3 generals in 5 matches. We face their Lieutenant so definitely no free pass for us. They lost a lot of decks last round and it looks like they don't have or aren't using catapults anymore. Shields aren't going to work here and it looks like they don't have much CC so i'm thinking a mono-death rush could work.

Fire - Facing their Lieut. so there is a fear of a cremation deck but i think that deck is unlikely. I could see them using their bonewall/bolt deck vs us though. Wonder if they have any RoF's. We really don't have a great answer for this deck.

Darkness - They lost a few key decks last round (devtal, GoTP/nightmare, Grabbow). And as i look they have another GoTP/nightmare and Grabbow.. lol. I guess our grabbow works decently here.

Earth - Well at least we don't face a general or lieut. Fractal/dim stall with a dragon to fractal? That will handle the immortal and should be able to handle a few of their other decks.

Jaymanfu · « **Reply #5 on:** November 07, 2011, 11:32:27 pm »

Man this is getting tight, losing cards this round and still playing the same amount of people hurts... This is what I came up see what you guys think, kinda went weird approach this time.....

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Water - 5 abyss crawlers, 1 dim shield
Light - 1 lightning, 2 pu, 1 dim shield, 2 angels(convert)
Air - 1 fog shield, 1 shockwave, 4 deflags
Life - 4 frogs, 2 nova
UW - 2 arsenic, 2 lightning, 1 purify, 1 poison

Discard
Deflag spiders(all but) - 3 mummy, 3 spiders
Winged spiders(all but) - 1 arsenic, 3 wings, 2 pendulums

Conversion(2 pillar, 21 pendulums) 23 total
2 angels
1 lightning
1 fog shield
3 wings
1 shockwave
1 skull shield
4 poison
2 nova
4 deflag
1 purify
1 lycan
1 spiders
1 nightmare

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1 nightmare
2 vampire dagger
2 cloak
1 nightfall
5 flesh spiders
2 bonewall
1 lycan
1 nova
1 deflag

RootRanger · « **Reply #6 on:** November 08, 2011, 02:22:20 am »

Once again, thanks Jay. This mostly looks great.

UW - Even though UW has a denial deck, I think this has too much Death quanta generation. 2 Pillars, 7 Pends, and 5 Novas is too much for a cost of 18 quanta. Water quanta looks about right. I would swap two bone pillars for two poisons (convert two fewer poisons). I would also swap a forest spirit for a lycan. If we happen to draw a second one, it's useless. And in a rush, the Forest Spirits will never have that many turns to grow.

Darkness - Eh, I've never been a fan of Life cards, and it takes two turns to play a frog. Maybe we can scrape together enough cards for a mono. I'll come back to this one.

Fire - Swap the Skull Shield for another Bonewall. We have the quanta for it, and the Lightnings are a lot better with a Bonewall in play.

Air - There's no question that we're tight on cards. And Air hasn't run RTs all war (if I remember correctly). We can probably be safe running 34 cards (keep in mind we've run 1 deckout in the last 3 rounds and Air is running low on cards themselves). Let's drop an Arsenic, 2 EQs, and a Pendulum.

Gravity, Earth, and Life - I would take the Dims out of Gravity and use 5 in each deck. 2-3 dimshields would probably be worse than 2-3 of another shield, but 6 dimshields is a lot better than 6 of another shield (that's just how dimshields work). In our Life deck, I don't think we need Plagues because we have dimshields up, which they can't touch.

ralouf · « **Reply #7 on:** November 08, 2011, 05:45:23 am »

I'm okay with all you said, just things : maybe you will need to play life because we are lacking death cards.. But if you can manage to build a monodeck, do it.
If you take out the dim shield in my deck what would you put instead ? And are you sure that fractalling mummy is that good ? they cost one more than upped recluse and have one less attack. But we maybe are low on recluse in our vault ?

Good job Jay I like all those deck

Jaymanfu · « **Reply #8 on:** November 08, 2011, 07:36:41 am »

UW (-forest spirit, +lycan)

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Gravity(-2 mummy -2 dimshield -2 pends / +2 flesh spiders +1 bonewall +1 lightning +2 pillar)

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Earth(-1 bonewall -1 PU / +2 dim shield)

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Water - 5 abyss crawlers, 1 dim shield
Light - 1 lightning, 2 pu, 1 dim shield, 2 angels
Air - 1 fog shield, 1 shockwave, 4 deflags
Life - 2 frogs, 4 nova
UW - 2 arsenic, 2 lightning, 1 purify, 1 poison

Discard
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Winged spiders(all but) - 1 arsenic, 3 wings, 2 pendulums

Conversion(4 pillar, 20 pendulums) 24 total
2 angels
1 fog shield
3 wings
1 shockwave
1 skull shield
4 poison
4 nova
2 deflag
1 purify
1 lycan
2 frog
1 nightmare
1 PU

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2 steal
1 dusk mantle
1 nightmare
2 vampire dagger
2 cloak
1 nightfall
5 flesh spiders
2 bonewall
1 lycan
1 nova
2 deflag
2 earthquake

??? ??? ??? ??? ??? I think this works... I hope ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? What do ya think?

PlayerOa · « **Reply #9 on:** November 08, 2011, 07:41:34 am »

Air deck is illegal (too few death cards).

Jaymanfu · « **Reply #10 on:** November 08, 2011, 07:54:57 am »

Air deck is illegal (too few death cards).

Blah good catch

RootRanger · « **Reply #11 on:** November 09, 2011, 03:50:10 am »

And here are my final corrections for this round. Changes in bold.
My math still probably needs to be checked but I think everything makes since.
It was mostly great as it was, but I think these small changes can help our decks a little.

UW (-forest spirit, +lycan +2 Poisons, - 2 Pillars)
More damage, and we had enough Death quanta already.

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Air (-2 earthquake +1 Plague -1 Arsenic) - Changed the upgrades

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Eh, we didn't really need Arsenic in a deckout. The plague should help as CC. Upgraded an EQ to get it out faster.

Earth(-1 bonewall -1 PU / +2 dim shield, +1 dimshield, -1 Dragon) - Changed the upgrades

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6 Dimshields pretty much secures a win if they don't have PC or a tough stall. But with 5 it's a little risky that you might stop chaining. Upped 2 dragons and an Arsenic for maximum damage. I know that upped pillars helps against EQ, but we've used so many grabbows and we're a fast Element, so I don't expect Earth to use a lot of EQs here.

Life (+1 pillars, +1 Dimshield, -2 Plagues)