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Round 5 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9138.msg107691#msg107691
« on: July 04, 2010, 05:01:40 pm »
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Dont know why it is mandatory to inform who will be fighting as we can only go with one player, which should of course be MrBlonde, but anyway... Dont forget to post your name there.

Btw, you're fighting :light (hobnob).

MrBlonde

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Re: Round 5 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9138.msg107741#msg107741
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2010, 06:25:06 pm »
Thanks Malduk... why do we have to play light? why...

Malduk

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Re: Round 5 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9138.msg107762#msg107762
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2010, 06:54:10 pm »
Because random gods seriously hate me personally, and they are now just making sure you dont get to salvage enough cards to get :death back in the war.

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Re: Round 5 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9138.msg107853#msg107853
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2010, 08:50:36 pm »
Has the vault been updated? I really want to try to make the best possible deck as this is our last chance, gotta stay alive here or we're out.

If the vault is done these are some options we could do:

1 - Massive stall deck to try our best to out-deck light. To do that we could use phase shields and bonewalls(if light goes stall they will only have 1 thing dealing damage, their morning glory so bonewall = 7 turn phase shield, unless they pack extra creatures of course)
2 - Use dark for dusk mantel and steals
3 - Use entropy and try to get an early discord out hoping it will slow them down enough
4 - Fractal spiders rush deck using phase shields and lightnings and maybe poisons. Might be able to get by with a fire mark and add in a couple explosions to get rid of a pesky shield.

The best ones are probably the straight up stall deck to try to prevent any damage and drag the game out to be decided by deck size, or use the fractal spider rush with phase shields and a fire mark for explosions. I'll make up some decks right now using the cards we have.

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Re: Round 5 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9138.msg107863#msg107863
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2010, 09:00:24 pm »
The thing is, a single Miracle can destroy any rush.  I'd consider it imperative to see what we can do to disrupt their quanta ala our remaining Discords to keep that from happening.  Bringing Boneyards and/or Bonewalls can keep Holy Flashes from being as effective as well, and Poison stacks up with Arsenics.  The problem is, their primary :death fighting deck beat us twice for the mere reason is that its excellent at doing just that; beating :death.

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Re: Round 5 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9138.msg107864#msg107864
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2010, 09:01:11 pm »
I think its updated seeing how there are only so many :death cards for one legal deck.

:light lost total of 8 games, and they will be quite limited this round as they have to field all 6 decks. It is quite possible they will use :water / :light deck against us again. It worked so far.

Note - that deck uses ice lance, so deck out strat could only work with some reflective shield. Which we dont have.

That deck is very vulnerable to quanta denial. And we just dont have that :) Only discord is there, but thats the only :entropy card we could use if we go with discord.
Basically, we need to win before they gather enough quanta for lances (protecting ourselves from Glory in the mean time), while they are stalling with Ice Shield and Miracle.

TheoCT

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Re: Round 5 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9138.msg107869#msg107869
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2010, 09:05:28 pm »
So I went on the trainer and got JUST the cards in the vault and trying to see what I make, these are the decks I've come up with so far:

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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52j 52j 52j 52j 52j 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 5f6 5f6 5f6 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61t 61t 622 622Maybe take out some poisons and add in a couple more aether towers?

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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vl 4vl 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52j 52j 52j 52j 52j 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 52r 52r 52t 52t
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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52j 52j 52j 52j 52j 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 52r 52r 52t 52t 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61tEven though I doubt light will go for creatures, in the stall deck if you get bonewall out you can lightning your own spiders/mummy's to gain 2 extra turns of protection (if they only have a morning glory), and if they have more than just the morning glory we'll probably be able to kill the creatures with lightning.

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Re: Round 5 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9138.msg107894#msg107894
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2010, 09:29:41 pm »
I think we really would have to go with stall this round, and that last deck from Theo looks sound. So far they are using like 40 cards, and 46 cards should be able to deck  them out. 

TheoCT

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Re: Round 5 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9138.msg107907#msg107907
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2010, 09:48:39 pm »
I think we really would have to go with stall this round, and that last deck from Theo looks sound. So far they are using like 40 cards, and 46 cards should be able to deck  them out.
Yea, I think the stall deck is the way to go.

Malduk

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Re: Round 5 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9138.msg107933#msg107933
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2010, 10:21:20 pm »
I think we really would have to go with stall this round, and that last deck from Theo looks sound. So far they are using like 40 cards, and 46 cards should be able to deck  them out.
Yea, I think the stall deck is the way to go.
Bolts! Stall could work only if something screws up their :water quanta. Which is not easy with just Discord.

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Re: Round 5 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9138.msg107936#msg107936
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2010, 10:32:01 pm »
Bolts! Stall could work only if something screws up their :water quanta. Which is not easy with just Discord.
I guess.....that could be a problem but we can't really do anything about it :(

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Re: Round 5 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9138.msg108187#msg108187
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2010, 07:46:16 am »
Hi guys! Just got back from 4th of July BBQ/Party. Hope you all had a great 4th as well. On my way home all i could think about was how to counter light's stall deck and "WHY LIGHT? ANYONE BUT STINKIN' LIGHT!" That bolt/stall deck is pretty nasty and is really hard to counter and doubly harder now that we are limited in our cards.

I am pretty encouraged though with the amount of thought you guys have put into our final hurrah deck. I will look at the decks more tomorrow when i'm not so beat (although i'll be gone again most of the day, going to the beach).

 

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