Round 2 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting

[Shantu]

Round 1 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting

Salvaging
Edunavas (from round 1): 3 Deflagrations, 2 Rains of Fire, 2 Rage Potions and 2 Time Pillars
Pervepic: 1 Heal, 2 Owl's Eyes, 3 Air Pendulums
Daxx: 1 Titan, 2 Momentums, 2 Emerald Dragons, 1 Adrenaline
wavedash: 3 Phoenixes, 2 Deflagrations, 1 Purify
YeliyaYue: 6 Life Pendulums

Discarding
Home_wreckaz: 6 Flesh Spiders, 4 Wings, 1 bone pillar, 1 bone pendelum
Smuglapse: 6 Freezes, 4 Chrysaoras, 2 Poisons
Nume: 3 Earthquakes, 4 Bone Pillars, 5 Death Pendulums
Corrum: 6 Momentums, 1 Lightning, 2 Deathstalkers, 3 Bone Pillars

Penalties
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Converting
2 Time Pillars and 3 Air Pendulums -> 5 Death Pendulums
6 Life Pendulums and 1 Heal -> 7 Bone Pillars

Salvaging
6 cards

Wavedash

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5f6 5f6 5f6 5fc 5fc 5fc 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i9 5i9 5ia 5ia 5ii 5ii 5ii 5ii 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm
Pervepic

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5c2 5c6 5c6 5c6 5c6 5c6 5lk 5lk 5oj 5oj 5oj 5oj 5oj 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 7n5 7n5 7oe 7oe 7oe 7oe
Daxx

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55p 55q 55q 55q 55q 55q 55q 55r 55r 55s 5bt 5bt 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c8 5c8 5c8 5c8 5c8 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de
YeliyaYue

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5bs 5bs 5c1 5c1 5c1 5c1 5c1 5c1 5c2 5c5 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i9 5i9 5ia 5ig 5ig 5ig
Edunavas (from Round 1) 9 cards

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5f6 5f6 5f6 5f6 5f8 5f8 5fb 5fb 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5ro 5ro 5rr 5rr 5rr 5rs 5rs 5rs 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2

Discarding
12 cards

Smuglapse

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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i7
Nume

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52g 52g 52g 52g 52q 52q 52r 52t 52t 52t 542 542 542 542 542 590 590 590 590 590 590 593 593 593 5og
Home_wreckaz

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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52h 52j 52j 52j 52j 52j 52j 52p 52p 52q 52q 52r 542 542 542 542 542 542 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo
Corrum

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52g 52g 52g 52g 52q 52q 52u 52u 52u 52u 52u 52u 542 542 542 542 55q 55q 55q 55q 55q 55q 5og 5og 5rk 61q

[Shantu]

Just an idea: we should more or less finish the salvaging and discarding by the beginning of the deckbuilding phase of the next round. This would allow us to have more time for making the decks, without having to worry about salvaging and stuff.

[Shantu]

My ideas:

Wavedash: 3 deflags, 3 phoenices? Or ice bolts, ice shields
Pervepic: Empathic Bonds would be nice if we had aflatoxins, but since we do not, perhaps we should take those EEs or air pendulums.. no idea.
Daxx: 5 adrenalines and a scorpion? or momentums to replace Corrum's momentums if we throw those away? Still, adrenalines would be nice.
YeliyaYue: pillars, staff, heal, something from water ?
Edunavas: 4 deflags, 2 RoFs, 2 Rage Potions, something from time?


Discarding: I don't know. I don't want to discard anything We should convert 12 pillars/pends again, like last round.

[home_wreckaz]

Just a note guys:

When a team loses a battle, they have to discard cards. The numbers of cards discarded is determined by the round number. The further the event goes, the more cards are discarded.

ROUND 1: discard 6
ROUND 2: discard 12
ROUND 3: discard 18
ROUND 4: discard 24
ROUND 5: discard 30
ROUND 6: discard 30
ROUND 7: discard 30
etc.

Cards that are left in the deck after discarding, are returned back to Vault.

Also

After each win, the team can salvage cards from the opponent. Winning team picks 6 cards from the deck posted by the losing player, which will be added to their Vault.

This is taken from the rules section, so since we are at round 2, 12 cards must be discarded from each losing deck, 6 cards salvaged from each winning deck.

This means that we can only offset the pillars discarded from 1 deck and the other 3 decks that lost, we must choose 36 to clear off.

We can get back 6 momentums that will be discarded from corrum's deck through daxx's deck, not too sure about what to choose for the other 30 but I'd say the graboids/Earthquake should be kept? 

[Malduk]

We had decent starting vault, and with 6-3, 5-4 results there are lots of teams that have huge problems now. Lets hope for a good round 3 draw
Anyway, we need to start letting some decks go, and start salvaging cards that can make us real duo decks instead of just splashing couple of cards in heavy death deck.

Now... discarding...

From Smuglapse (speed poison):
- 6 Freeze
- 4 Chrysaoras
- 2 Poison
(Leaves us another speed poison deck in the Vault)

From Corrum (deathstalker rainbow):
--> 1st version
- 6 Deathstalkers
- 6 Momentums
(Removes stalkers from the vault. I'm not convinced in their efficiency. They are great when against stalling opponent that has no CC, but chances to hit that type of opponent with the deck are super low.)
--> 2nd version
- 6 Momentums
- 3 Stalkers
- 1 Lightning
- 2... Pillars?
( We still have 4 Momentums left in the Vault. Means we can make / duo with mixed creatures, or another rainbow with misc stuff including 2-3 Stalkers. Their poisoning is pretty decent when there are other stuff smacking down opponents HP. When you field Momentumed Stalker and Momentumed Drake, opponent will have to think twice which one to take out off the field)

From home_wreckaz (wings deck):
Ugh, this was a mistake. Semi "I give up" deck with all the good stuff in.
- 6 Spiders
- 2 Plagues
- 1 Bonewall
- 3 Wings (or 0 Bonewall, 4 Wings)
(Spiders are our weakest creatures, and are mostly used upgraded by me and MrBlonde, or in Wings decks. We'd be left with 12 in the Vault which I think is okay. There are 12 Wings and 18 Bonewalls currently in the Vault. Wings work with 3-4 of those in the deck, so its just a matter if we want to have 8 or 9 of those in the Vault. We can live without 1 Bonewall.)

From Nume (graboid deck):
Hardest discard... I still think Graboids are too good to let go as they build our fastest rush deck without going mono .
So, lets see other cards:
- 3 EQs -> currently 10 in the Vault
- 5 Novas -> currently 10 in the Vault (IMO, either we discard 4 of those or none)
- 1 FoG -> 4 in Vault (I'm in love with the little Hax shield; 3 is an awkward number, 2 per deck is what we'll usually use)
- other cards are cards... 3 Mummies, 1 Bonewall, some pillars and pendulums. Arsenics should not be discarded.

I have no idea what to do here Easy way would be 6 Graboids, 4 Novas, and maybe 2 EQs, but I'd be a sad panda if we do it.

[Malduk]

SALVAGING

From wavedash (/:fire)
- 3 Pheonix
- 3 Deflags

We have enough water cards to make deck with them.
Pheonix lets us build decent / duo against CC opponent. Add Bonewalls for more fun. I REALLY love this salvage.

From edunavas (round 1 / )

9 cards here, we already agreed to take those 8 cards. However, we dont really NEED so many deflags (6 in Vault, 3 from wavedash, 4 available here). This opens a window to maybe take few cards, but I still dont see them as good addition in the Vault. Candidates for exchange for death pillars/pendulums.

From suxerz ( deck) (*no salvage)

From Pervepic ( FFQ/Hope deck)

1 Heal, 2 OEs, 3 Air pendulums (to be exchanged for death pillars/pendulums)
Meh salvage. FFQ and Hope are useless to us. Bonds are also useless as we wont have lots of creatures in our / duo. I'd rather take straight Heal in the deck. 2 OEs extra make discarding easier if our deck with OEs lose.


And now green decks... I dont like green stuff much  So, from Daxx and YouligYoulibouly guy

stuff seem useless. Our nymph is 0|4. I never used it to be honest, though it can work with Ice Shield. I'm going to try to build a deck with those Tears before Salvaging is done, but at the moment, Heal, Staff and 4 whatever seems like a better choice.

Daxx deck allow us to either build duo with Momentum Otys, or duo (I'd take those two dragons). Thoughts?

[Shantu]

From suxerz ( deck)

Its not posted in OP, so here it is:

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5l9 5l9 5la 5la 5la 5la 5lc 5lc 5lc 5lc 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lh 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq
We have some cards. 1 Miracle, 1 pendulum, 4 Blessings? Or maybe 2 dragons, 4 pendulums? If we save 3 Stalkers, we can make Miracle/Blessing deck, but Blessings are decent regardless.

I didn't include it because we can't salvage from it. MrBlonde subbed Mastermind, and since he isn't the official substitue, it means no salvaged cards.

[Malduk]

I didn't include it because we can't salvage from it. MrBlonde subbed Mastermind, and since he isn't the official substitue, it means no salvaged cards.

Meep! Forgot that. Oh well... You cant miss what you never had 

[Corrum]

Hey all,
Bummer that mastermind had to be subbed.  Sorry I wasn't there to do it.  Didn't know I might be needed.
Corrum

[Malduk]

Hey all,
Bummer that mastermind had to be subbed.  Sorry I wasn't there to do it.  Didn't know I might be needed.
Corrum

It wasnt really your fault at all. IMO, we (or Nume) should start a thread per round where everyone will write down if they have arranged duel time, when is it, and if they are on tight schedule when deadline is approaching. So we know if we'll need to sub or not.
Waiting for the last day, then trying to organize fights in a hurry leads to messy situations.

[MrBlonde]

Hi guys,

Unfortunately i won't be on much today. Got a lot of work i need to do and the rest of the time is significant other time. Concerning salvaging i agree with much of what Malduk has proposed. I would hate to get rid of the stalkers though.

Anyhow Shantu can you update the cards we are going to salvage and have Smug or someone update the vault after?

If no one updates the vault i will be on in about 13 hours and i will finish updating the vault and the salvage as needed.

[Malduk]

We have to finish that today? I think the deadline for it is when deckbuilding for round 3 is over.