Round 2 Salvage and Discard

[jippy99]

Just getting this started early.

Salvage decks:

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5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5de 5de 5de 5de 5c0 5c0 5c0 5c0 5c0 5c0 5c2 5c2 5c2 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 7ak 71a 71a 8pk

Heals, Poison, or Arsenics here

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55s 561 561 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5ie 5ie 5ie 5ie 5ie 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 74c 7n2 7n2 8pl

2 AWs, 2 Titans, 1 Freeze and 1 cata is my suggestion

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We can take a variety of things from this deck.  Novas, grabbys, lightnings, dim shields are a few choices.  2 Novas, 2 grabbys, a lighting and a dim shield would be my choice.

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More grabbow. I'd actually take the extra BH, I've seen a lot of grab bows so far and BHs might be important later on.  Could take some EQs to save us a few death cards from the discard.  My suggestion would be 1BH, 3 EQs, and 2 Novas

Discard decks:

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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52h 52h 52r 52r 52t 52t 52t 52t 52t 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 713 713 713 8ps

I think RTs are important, so we should keep those.

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We can toss a few EQs to get them right back, although I might just say toss them all together and save us some death cards.

Thoughts? I'd like to get this done relatively quickly, with at least half done before deck building.

Edit: Updated with decks to salvage/discard from.

[RootRanger]

Here are my suggestions (I'll edit as the games are played out).

Life Salvage - 4 Poison, 2 Arsenic. I really can't see why we would use a Life duo; it doesn't offer anything we need that Death doesn't already have.

Water Salvage - 2 Titan, 2 AW, 2 Cats. I want 4 Cats in our Vault so we can run two Titans decks in the same round more easily; they can be very good and customizable.

Aether Salvage - 5 Graboids, 1 Nova. This allows us to have 2 Grabbows in the same round.

Entropy Salvage - 4 EQs, 1 Fog, 1 BH. EQs for our Death Immortal. Fog and BH as a good grabbow card. BH might seem like an odd choice, I know, but if we can predict a Grabbow, it's amazing. If not, it's still kinda useful against a duo.

RT Deck Discard - Discard everything except 5 RTs and 1 Recluse. I chose the Recluse over the Mummy because it's better upgraded. And late in the war, with maybe only our Gen and Lt left, we will want Recluses since we will have more upgrades to spend on the average match.

EQ Deck Discard - Drop everything but 1 EQ and 5 creatures. If we discard 4 EQs in this deck and salvage 4 from Entropy, we still have 6.

DBH Deck Discard - Drop everything but the Recluses. Maybe I'm just biased, but I don't find the DBH deck very impressing. Late in the war there are going to be a lot more Grabbows, and DBH gets even worse (despite the BHs, DBH actually isn't good against Grabbows. I know from BL experience.)

Titans Discard - Discard 1 Titan, 2 FWs, 1 GP, and all of the Death cards.


I discarded all of our pillars and pends. If we are low on pillars and pends, we can convert. If we are REALLY low on pillars/pends we won't discard some of them.

The only deck that is out of the lineup is the DBH deck. But if the team wants to keep it, we can.

[ralouf]

Agree with every thing Root said except that we can take dim shield and graboids from aether and some other graboids + EQ from entropy

[RootRanger]

Updated my post.
And here is the main issue:

Do we want to use the Discord/BH deck in the future?

My vote is no.

[Jaymanfu]

Most of those seem like a good ideas. Somethings im thinking....

We might as well convert most of our poisons, maybe keep 12.... everyteam is countering them and they are predictable.. We could keep a bonebolt and pandybolt?
Yes I think we should definatly salvage to get 2 strong graboid decks.
Not sure how we got just 1 acceleration in our vault but it seems kinda pointless?


I just did a mock of RootRangers Ideas for Salvage/Discards and there is a big problem, it leaves us with just 28 Bone Pillars and 17 Death Pendulums, and Im not sure that is enough for us to Build proper decks, even with a 24 card conversion (Last round we used 57 pillars and 29 pendulums)

[MrBlonde]

We might as well convert most of our poisons, maybe keep 12.... everyteam is countering them and they are predictable.. We could keep a bonebolt and pandybolt?
Yes I think we should definatly salvage to get 2 strong graboid decks.
Not sure how we got just 1 acceleration in our vault but it seems kinda pointless?


I just did a mock of RootRangers Ideas for Salvage/Discards and there is a big problem, it leaves us with just 28 Bone Pillars and 17 Death Pendulums, and Im not sure that is enough for us to Build proper decks, even with a 24 card conversion (Last round we used 57 pillars and 29 pendulums)

Yeah no way we can run all our decks on a total of 45 pillars. Especially with our stall decks in our lineup. Basically we just need to create our decks for the next round and see the exact amount we need.

DBH - Yeah it looks like we can't save this. We have other cards that we need to save over keeping it.

[RootRanger]

Allright. We can save pillars from the decks in which we are currently saving creatures.
And I guess we can go down to 1 Titan Wall deck.

[PlayerOa]

Allright. We can save pillars from the decks in which we are currently saving creatures.
And I guess we can go down to 1 Titan Wall deck.

I agree. 1 Titan Wall is enough, though it would be good to have a back-up.

[RootRanger]

Our Pillar/Pend problem can be solved.

1.) Run two grabbows this round. All we need to salvage is 3 graboids; our vault can provide the rest.
2.) Salvage Aether Pendulums and Pillars for our Dimshield/Fractal deck.
3.) Discard non-pillar cards in some of our decks that lost.

Aether Salvage - 1 Graboid, 2 Pillars, 3 Pendulums
Entropy Salvage - 2 Graboids, 4 EQs
EQ Deck Discard - Everything except for 1 EQ and 5 pillars or pendulums
RT Deck Discard - Everything except for 1 Pillar and 5 RTs
DBH Discard - Everything except for 6 Pillars/Pends
Titan Wall Discard - Everything except for 6 Pillars/Pends

So this means we have two full grabbows, 6 EQs for our Immortal, and 23 more pillars/pends than before. If we convert 24 cards we are up to +47.

This gives us a maximum of 92 Pillars/Pends to work with, 6 more than we used last round.

[Jaymanfu]

We will need to do something like this:

Salvage:
aether - 3 grabiods + 1 nova + 1 lightning + 1 aether pillar
entropy - 4 EQ + 2 Nova
water - 3 freeze, 1 catapult 1 animate weapon 1 titan
life - 4 poison 2 arsenics

Discard:
DBH - ALL but 3 Pillars / 3 Pendulums
EQ decl - All but 3 spiders / 3 mummys
titan stall - all but 3 pillars / 3 pends
RT deck - 3 spiders, 2 mummys, 1 pillar

Conversion to (16 bone pillars, 8 pendulums)
6 plague
3 freeze
6 sundail
1 gravity pull
1 catapult
1 vampire dagger
1 wings
1 shockwave
2 nova
2 steal

If we want to field some of the decks i made.... or to have much of a chance to have a non suicide deck

[RootRanger]

A 4-wings deck and RT deck will be great against Grabbows. I would like to keep both. We can discard our Lightnings; I switched them to RTs in our Gravity deck.

We started with 11 Novas in our vault and haven't lost any, so we only need to salvage 1 for two full Novagrabbies.

[Jaymanfu]

A 4-wings deck and RT deck will be great against Grabbows. I would like to keep both. We can discard our Lightnings; I switched them to RTs in our Gravity deck.

We started with 11 Novas in our vault and haven't lost any, so we only need to salvage 1 for two full Novagrabbies.

Well as you see I just converted those novas anyways, unless there is something else someone thought of doing