Round 12 - Decks

[SteppingStone81]

One additional thought:

We should think about possible decks we could field using the event card + salvages:
- can get 4 x nova, 1 x QP and construct a bow?

salvage options:

http://helltgivre.free.fr/elements/?deck=z24vjz15iaz15oc5of5olz35onz45ooz25rpz561oz361tz1620z1622z663a8pr3 x nova2 x purify4 x shockwave5 x wingsOE3 x sundial2 x fractal2 x phase spider[/list]
Event card options  (1 copy of up to 12 cards):

more death critters / cardsmore beef to earth stall - pend / shield / PAcombine with salvage to build a bow

[Marvaddin]

About the event card, I think we could get a Fractal, + 2 Fractal from Salvage, and some creatures, specially death creatures.

I was also thinking about a speed deck (possibly using poison) with EQs instead of the stall deck. Anyway, if they are going to add Eternity, we could pack a Nova and an Explosion to deal with it, right? Bow option also sounds good.

Do you think other teams have stall decks yet?

[MrBlonde]

Eternity deck really doesn't worry me too much. With EQ's destroying time quanta should be easy.

[kev]

Some matchup thoughts:
Their decks

Through 11 rounds, Higs has used only four decks:  grabow, fractix, devtal, and death duo.Those are the only four decks we're sure they still have.  But they have an additional 58 cards, 12 of which are whatever they want due to the Event Card.They could've very well salvaged another BW & lightning deck last round.
Their MO

Higs' win streak is important to her.  I'm not buying that she's getting bored with War and will therefore try less.  She's a motivated, thinking opponent.They seem to put opponents on a deck and build a counter.  Higs comments frequently in threads to say either "We predicted this within one card" or "This is not what we expected."
What we know they know about us

They know we have a mono rush.They probably suspect we have an Earth duo (despite what Step said in chat).They know our salvage options last round.
Let's not overlook them

UW has a quantum pillar bow leftEntropy has a novabow leftFire has a novabow left
Those are the facts.  My experience has been that teams in rapid decline have problems fielding optimal decks, but the fact we're in the 30-card discard phase, Team Aether is very well organized, and this round's Event Card will all help mitigate that.  So the last point means of all Aether's opponents, pestal works against only us.  They could keep it in the vault this round, but if they don't, they'll pit it against us.  I think a good plan of action might be to take a stab at what Higs will take given the above and if we don't assume pestal we should assume Eva will.

earth duo <<< upped grabow
mono << upped grabow
wings duo >> upped grabow
earth duo <<< pestal
mono >>> pestal
wings duo <<< pestal

So if you were Higs, given the above, what would you take?

[SteppingStone81]

Rather than guessing precisely which deck Higs / Eva will bring, we should try to put each of them on a range of decks.  Then, we just pick the combination of our own decks which fares best against that range.

[kev]

Two other note I forgot above: 1) fractix only works for upped decks, which means if it's used it'll have to be used by Higs or pika.  2) because we're the only team without a nova deck we're sorta the most predictable, and so we may be receiving more attention from Aether than the others.  This may further the idea that they'll try to find counters to the decks we expect them to make and just sort of hope for the best in their other matchups.  That's the strategy we've used, anyway.

Rather than guessing precisely which deck Higs / Eva will bring, we should try to put each of them on a range of decks.  Then, we just pick the combination of our own decks which fares best against that range.

lol ok then, put them on a range .    I didn't really expect us to unanimously agree that Higs is going to choose Deck X.  I hoped we'd each give a deck or two as an option, it'd start a discussion, and maybe we'd end with a range.

For my money, if I were Team Aether I'd probably build Higs a Wings deck... which is not particularly helpful.

[MrBlonde]

i was going to make those exact points kev. We should expect a fractix for sure. Makes much more sense for higs to bring it IMO. Which means Earth stall is very viable for me still and it will pummel the wings deck as long as they don't make it 45 cards.

[xn0ize]

i accidently modified this instead of opening next round topic , i'll try to remember what was here .. sorry.

[SteppingStone81]

i accidently modified this instead of opening next round topic , i'll try to remember what was here .. sorry.

This is a 12 card penalty.  We should PM Kael / ddevans to let them know.

[MrBlonde]

i accidently modified this instead of opening next round topic , i'll try to remember what was here .. sorry.

This is a 12 card penalty.  We should PM Kael / ddevans to let them know.

Yeah we definitely should... well crap.. I guess our earth stall dies for sure then.... Don't worry about it xn mistakes happen.

We could also go for Sanctuaries. Tried to build some decks yesterday but summarily got raped by grabbow. I think wings is a good deck and it might be likely they will expect sancs (but honestly they are a bit too slow regardless).

[kev]

i accidently modified this instead of opening next round topic , i'll try to remember what was here .. sorry.

This is a 12 card penalty.  We should PM Kael / ddevans to let them know.

I can't see us getting penalized for this.  You realized your mistake immediately and changed it back.  No harm, no foul.  Who spoke to the WMs?

[xn0ize]

i want to shot my self , i'm so sorry.
but i don't think we should be pinalized , this didn't change anything , i accidently modified it after round 13 started, so in that case kael checked everything and it was fine, i fixed all right away, but the table, too tired.
i really hope we don't get screwed because of me