Round 1 - Decks

[kev]

Here are my initial thoughts.  I deliberately avoided what others have written so we can get a variety of opinions.
Mrblonde vs Jaymanfu
My guess is they'll have two grabow decks, two pestal decks, a bunch of EQs, and 1-2 Entropy duos with discord.  The immo deck beats all of that handily unless you drawfail, plus it's unexpected, but I’m recommending that go to xdude.  The grabow will be good too.

Kevkev vs Pikachufan (lieutenant)
I expect Aether decks to change more than any other team.  A lot of new blood and Higs is creative and motivated.  Unfortunately this means I have no idea what to expect.  My guess is they’ll have 2x pestal and immophoenix.  Regarding the matchup I feel like purifies could be coming.  D/BH is interesting and would be completely unexpected.

Xdude vs TNG
Gravity will have two D/BH decks, two grabow decks, a momentum deathstalker deck, and a phoenix deck.  D/BH where they try to stop us from reaching 7 quanta is the strongest possibility imo.  Countering discord requires you to either destroy them, block them, or use nova/immo to make discord less effective.  The deflag version of the immo deck would be win for blonde but it’s even winner here.

Daxx vs Vagman13 (lieutenant)
Others have given this matchup more thought than I have, so I’ll defer to them.  I think DoSA has some merit against Entropy, though, and we’re going to have to use more than one deck against them eventually.

ICB vs Edunavas
The three most likely decks we'll face are grabow, FFQ/hope, or a fire bolt deck.  The bolt deck they loved last War would be brilliant cuz they'd get around bonewall and have deflags for arsenic, our two most dangerous cards.  Maybe something like the RT deck I recommended here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23479.msg324757#msg324757) would be good given those possibilities?

Xnoize vs Majofa (lieutenant)
This is why we have the fire counter.  I agree that a bolt deck is likely and maj has I think four fire marks, but I still like your chances.  I stated earlier that Fire is likely to stick purifies in immo decks, but the fire counter can still win by deckout.

SteppingStone vs Acsabi44
They have grabby rush and solid Darkness duos at their disposal but my guess is we’ll see a Light duo that could include any of the above: titanium shield to nullify arsenic, sanctuary, miracle, stoneskin, EQ, and wardens.  They also stall well with Water and Entropy.  D/BH works against stalls but fails definitely against sanctuary, probably against Darkness duos, and maybe against grabby rush.  Possibilities: fractal upped spiders, sundial deck with upped arsenics, the grabow with EQs.

Marvaddin vs RootRanger
I sorta like a Death rush with either Darkness or Fire splashed for PC here.  I feel like we can load up on critters and ignore CC and we might still be ok.
Regarding the Event Card
This round we win six cards or lose six cards.  If we choose to buy three upped cards, we need our winrate to be 1/12 or 8.33% higher to break even.  8.33% is a lot to expect out of three measly upped cards, so in general I agree with not buying upped cards.  If we do see a matchup where upped cards might make a large difference in winrate, we should pull the trigger.  For some reason Step’s matchup could feel that way to me.

[SteppingStone81]

Regarding the Event Card
This round we win six cards or lose six cards.  If we choose to buy three upped cards, we need our winrate to be 1/12 or 8.33% higher to break even.  8.33% is a lot to expect out of three measly upped cards, so in general I agree with not buying upped cards.  If we do see a matchup where upped cards might make a large difference in winrate, we should pull the trigger.  For some reason Step’s matchup could feel that way to me.

I am generally opposed to sacrificing cards from vault, although upped arsenic really can be win against earth.  If we construct a few opponent earth decks, I can do some testing to see whether upgrades increase p(win) by at least 1/12 versus their range.

[MrBlonde]

Here are my initial thoughts.  I deliberately avoided what others have written so we can get a variety of opinions.
Mrblonde vs Jaymanfu
My guess is they'll have two grabow decks, two pestal decks, a bunch of EQs, and 1-2 Entropy duos with discord.  The immo deck beats all of that handily unless you drawfail, plus it's unexpected, but I’m recommending that go to xdude.  The grabow will be good too.
I was thinking immo would work great here for me but probably is better going to xdude.If the grabow is free i think that will be a good choice. 

Kevkev vs Pikachufan (lieutenant)
I expect Aether decks to change more than any other team.  A lot of new blood and Higs is creative and motivated.  Unfortunately this means I have no idea what to expect.  My guess is they’ll have 2x pestal and immophoenix.  Regarding the matchup I feel like purifies could be coming.  D/BH is interesting and would be completely unexpected.
 I also think the D/BH deck would work well vs Life. Simple darkness deck or deflag deck could work here.

Xdude vs TNG
Gravity will have two D/BH decks, two grabow decks, a momentum deathstalker deck, and a phoenix deck.  D/BH where they try to stop us from reaching 7 quanta is the strongest possibility imo.  Countering discord requires you to either destroy them, block them, or use nova/immo to make discord less effective.  The deflag version of the immo deck would be win for blonde but it’s even winner here.

Daxx vs Vagman13 (lieutenant)
Others have given this matchup more thought than I have, so I’ll defer to them.  I think DoSA has some merit against Entropy, though, and we’re going to have to use more than one deck against them eventually.

ICB vs Edunavas
The three most likely decks we'll face are grabow, FFQ/hope, or a fire bolt deck.  The bolt deck they loved last War would be brilliant cuz they'd get around bonewall and have deflags for arsenic, our two most dangerous cards.  Maybe something like the RT deck I recommended here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23479.msg324757#msg324757) would be good given those possibilities?

Xnoize vs Majofa (lieutenant)
This is why we have the fire counter.  I agree that a bolt deck is likely and maj has I think four fire marks, but I still like your chances.  I stated earlier that Fire is likely to stick purifies in immo decks, but the fire counter can still win by deckout.

SteppingStone vs Acsabi44
They have grabby rush and solid Darkness duos at their disposal but my guess is we’ll see a Light duo that could include any of the above: titanium shield to nullify arsenic, sanctuary, miracle, stoneskin, EQ, and wardens.  They also stall well with Water and Entropy.  D/BH works against stalls but fails definitely against sanctuary, probably against Darkness duos, and maybe against grabby rush.  Possibilities: fractal upped spiders, sundial deck with upped arsenics, the grabow with EQs.
I like the fractaled upped spider idea. It will also just cost us 1 card to run
Marvaddin vs RootRanger
I sorta like a Death rush with either Darkness or Fire splashed for PC here.  I feel like we can load up on critters and ignore CC and we might still be ok.
EQ's still might be a better way to go. Not really sure which would be more versatile vs light though

Regarding the Event Card
This round we win six cards or lose six cards.  If we choose to buy three upped cards, we need our winrate to be 1/12 or 8.33% higher to break even.  8.33% is a lot to expect out of three measly upped cards, so in general I agree with not buying upped cards.  If we do see a matchup where upped cards might make a large difference in winrate, we should pull the trigger.  For some reason Step’s matchup could feel that way to me.

[icecoldbro]

Me(ICB) color speaking

Here are my initial thoughts.  I deliberately avoided what others have written so we can get a variety of opinions.
Mrblonde vs Jaymanfu
My guess is they'll have two grabow decks, two pestal decks, a bunch of EQs, and 1-2 Entropy duos with discord.  The immo deck beats all of that handily unless you drawfail, plus it's unexpected, but I’m recommending that go to xdude.  The grabow will be good too.
 Xn's Crusader Arsenic (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23479.msg324757#msg324757) I like thanks that even if they do steal the arsenic were still good as you can copy from any side of the field, also the crusader should give moderate healing and protection from Devourer.

Kevkev vs Pikachufan (lieutenant)
I expect Aether decks to change more than any other team.  A lot of new blood and Higs is creative and motivated.  Unfortunately this means I have no idea what to expect.  My guess is they’ll have 2x pestal and immophoenix.  Regarding the matchup I feel like purifies could be coming.  D/BH is interesting and would be completely unexpected.
 Normally Id have an idea in mind but Hugs seems to like changing things up way too much too make her predictable, I actually recommend the NovaGrabby deck listed here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23479.msg324757#msg324757)but with one less shock wave and one more deflag, as the skull shield will protect from Fractal rushes, and Plagues as added bonus.
Xdude vs TNG
Gravity will have two D/BH decks, two grabow decks, a momentum deathstalker deck, and a phoenix deck.  D/BH where they try to stop us from reaching 7 quanta is the strongest possibility imo.  Countering discord requires you to either destroy them, block them, or use nova/immo to make discord less effective.  The deflag version of the immo deck would be win for blonde but it’s even winner here.

Daxx vs Vagman13 (lieutenant)
Others have given this matchup more thought than I have, so I’ll defer to them.  I think DoSA has some merit against Entropy, though, and we’re going to have to use more than one deck against them eventually.
 DoSA sounds good

ICB vs Edunavas
The three most likely decks we'll face are grabow, FFQ/hope, or a fire bolt deck.  The bolt deck they loved last War would be brilliant cuz they'd get around bonewall and have deflags for arsenic, our two most dangerous cards.  Maybe something like the RT deck I recommended here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23479.msg324757#msg324757) would be good given those possibilities?
Wings deck from here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23479.msg324757#msg324757) 52h 52h 52p 52p 52r 52r 52r 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 5oi 5oi 5oi 5ol 5ol 5ol 5ol 5on 5on 5on 5on 5oo 5oo Might work wonders here, as Life only has Dragons and Rustlers that go past Wings and The OE can easily handle the dragons, not too even mention the plagues, a problem with it is the low damage output, which could lead to demise vs a deckout heal deck.

Xnoize vs Majofa (lieutenant)
This is why we have the fire counter.  I agree that a bolt deck is likely and maj has I think four fire marks, but I still like your chances.  I stated earlier that Fire is likely to stick purifies in immo decks, but the fire counter can still win by deckout.
 Not much to be said, I agree

SteppingStone vs Acsabi44
They have grabby rush and solid Darkness duos at their disposal but my guess is we’ll see a Light duo that could include any of the above: titanium shield to nullify arsenic, sanctuary, miracle, stoneskin, EQ, and wardens.  They also stall well with Water and Entropy.  D/BH works against stalls but fails definitely against sanctuary, probably against Darkness duos, and maybe against grabby rush.  Possibilities: fractal upped spiders, sundial deck with upped arsenics, the grabow with EQs.
 I think our best bet is on the Sundial deck or even my Fractal Spark deck.

Marvaddin vs RootRanger
I sorta like a Death rush with either Darkness or Fire splashed for PC here.  I feel like we can load up on critters and ignore CC and we might still be ok.
 Agreed
Regarding the Event Card
This round we win six cards or lose six cards.  If we choose to buy three upped cards, we need our winrate to be 1/12 or 8.33% higher to break even.  8.33% is a lot to expect out of three measly upped cards, so in general I agree with not buying upped cards.  If we do see a matchup where upped cards might make a large difference in winrate, we should pull the trigger.  For some reason Step’s matchup could feel that way to me.

[xdude]

Mrblonde vs Jaymanfu
My guess is they'll have two grabow decks, two pestal decks, a bunch of EQs, and 1-2 Entropy duos with discord.  The immo deck beats all of that handily unless you drawfail, plus it's unexpected, but I’m recommending that go to xdude.  The grabow will be good too.

I thought rush with Deflags as well, but I thought at simple mono Death. Because I think Grabbow is better placed elsewhere.

Kevkev vs Pikachufan (lieutenant)
I expect Aether decks to change more than any other team.  A lot of new blood and Higs is creative and motivated.  Unfortunately this means I have no idea what to expect.  My guess is they’ll have 2x pestal and immophoenix.  Regarding the matchup I feel like purifies could be coming.  D/BH is interesting and would be completely unexpected.


My opinion on this is that out Darkness/Death deck with Skull Bucklers should work well. D/BH is meh when you get Cremated Fenix's in the face.

Xdude vs TNG
Gravity will have two D/BH decks, two grabow decks, a momentum deathstalker deck, and a phoenix deck.  D/BH where they try to stop us from reaching 7 quanta is the strongest possibility imo.  Countering discord requires you to either destroy them, block them, or use nova/immo to make discord less effective.  The deflag version of the immo deck would be win for blonde but it’s even winner here.


As in my first post, I agree with this. Just that I don't even think Deflags are needed.

Daxx vs Vagman13 (lieutenant)
Others have given this matchup more thought than I have, so I’ll defer to them.  I think DoSA has some merit against Entropy, though, and we’re going to have to use more than one deck against them eventually.


Well, Knowing Zeru they won't upgrade so many cards so the mumbow can probably still outrush them, while beating the Stall. I'd go with that.

ICB vs Edunavas
The three most likely decks we'll face are grabow, FFQ/hope, or a fire bolt deck.  The bolt deck they loved last War would be brilliant cuz they'd get around bonewall and have deflags for arsenic, our two most dangerous cards.  Maybe something like the RT deck I recommended here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23479.msg324757#msg324757) would be good given those possibilities?


I like both the Wingdeck and the D/BH deck here. Perhaps last War's MVP is more reliable though.

Xnoize vs Majofa (lieutenant)
This is why we have the fire counter.  I agree that a bolt deck is likely and maj has I think four fire marks, but I still like your chances.  I stated earlier that Fire is likely to stick purifies in immo decks, but the fire counter can still win by deckout.


Yep. Fire counter, and let's pray (or test and find out) we can beat the rush/Fractix.

SteppingStone vs Acsabi44
They have grabby rush and solid Darkness duos at their disposal but my guess is we’ll see a Light duo that could include any of the above: titanium shield to nullify arsenic, sanctuary, miracle, stoneskin, EQ, and wardens.  They also stall well with Water and Entropy.  D/BH works against stalls but fails definitely against sanctuary, probably against Darkness duos, and maybe against grabby rush.  Possibilities: fractal upped spiders, sundial deck with upped arsenics, the grabow with EQs.


I don't like the Fractal spiders, for one reason. Earth has EQ's and they're likely to use it against a team with 'rechargeable' shields. The Grabbow would be, IMO, best used here.

Marvaddin vs RootRanger
I sorta like a Death rush with either Darkness or Fire splashed for PC here.  I feel like we can load up on critters and ignore CC and we might still be ok.

Mm, no. With Sancs and Miracles, 5-6 Mummies cannot beat Light. EQ deck is the way to go, if we have any. If not, Fractal Recluses.

Regarding the Event Card
This round we win six cards or lose six cards.  If we choose to buy three upped cards, we need our winrate to be 1/12 or 8.33% higher to break even.  8.33% is a lot to expect out of three measly upped cards, so in general I agree with not buying upped cards.  If we do see a matchup where upped cards might make a large difference in winrate, we should pull the trigger.  For some reason Step’s matchup could feel that way to me.

We should only do it when necessary.

[Marvaddin]

Vs , immo deck is good.

Vs  , D/BH looks good to me, aether cards cost a lot, and they will surely use Dim Shield. Skull Buckler is a must, too.

Vs  , I really dont see immo deck going for these, when they probably have BH. I suppose they will pack BHs and Chargers against us, so maybe a speed poison can be good.

Vs  , mumbow and Dosa looks good.

Vs  , I suppose Wings is not the best bet. They probably wont come with a simple rush (would lose to Bone Wall), so I assume they will use FFQ bolt. And possibly some healing, maybe even purify. I would go for mono Death, with soul catcher, viruses, mummies, dragons.

Vs  , fire counter and pray.

Vs  , agree with xdude, grabbow.

Vs  , I really feel they are going for a stall with sanctuaries and Miracle. Some poison and Fractal Dragons, I would say. They probably will use Holy Light to kill our creatures, and thats why we will need Fractal.

[xdude]

Vs  , I really dont see immo deck going for these, when they probably have BH. I suppose they will pack BHs and Chargers against us, so maybe a speed poison can be good.

We don't have Speed PoisonImmobow>D/BH

[MrBlonde]

K, i updated the original post with decks. As of now it seems that only the X's have decks set right now. I'm thinking grabow/EQ for light would work well. Entropy we should go with Dosa or mummybow since we did create those decks to counter entropy. Earth, i'm kinda meh about since they will likely use EQ's. Grabbow or mummybow would work here i suppose but that would mean DoSa for Entropy and if grabow is used for light it would have to be mumbow. I still think the BH/Discord deck would do well vs pretty much most decks life will put out.

Anyhow we still have some time to hash all this out.

[xdude]

Take out the marks' codes in the first 2 decks, just in case. I should come up with some decks soon enough as well.

I've modified your Google Doc a little, because it had some Errors. Pendulum is still spelled wrong.

My deck might work better with Fire Mark - this way I can't Immo Fenix's. But then I can't Immo Virusi in the 2nd turn. Nevermind the first sentence . 3 upgrades would kind of help (Cremations), but I'm not sure yet if they'd help so much to warrant a 1-card loss.

Noize's deck should work.

Aether has me puzzled, with their Fractal Pestal I see coming very hard to counter.

I suggest this for Light: a straight aggro Fractal deck. It wins in 8 turns consistently, but can win in even 6.

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[MrBlonde]

Only problem with using that deck is that we wouldn't be able to use DoSa. Hmmmm...

[Marvaddin]

We look good with the decks in the 1st post of this topic. Just dunno about General deck.

This deck could be interesting vs Light, but I wouldnt expect a fast victory, if they are coming for a deck out. But has a good chance, although they probably have some Miracles packed.

[xn0ize]

blonde's deck is good against pestal , and works nice against rush , and not bad against grabbow, it's decent.