Decks

[MrBlonde]

Sorry i haven't been around a whole lot guys.. Fridays and weekends i get pretty busy and lately i know i haven't been that active. What UFCfan did i meant to do so THANK YOU UFCfan for helping out. Like Theo said you have been a great asset.

I am not sure what to do for my matchup. I want to use the entropy deck again vs them but i wonder if they are going to assume i'm going to use it OR know that i know and think that i won't use it. Sigh. Also Entropy is short on Discords (7 left for 6 matches) so some people will have none or just use 1 a piece. Depends who they want to use it on. I think i need to look at all the matches first.

I was also thinking a speed poison modded with bone walls and plagues but not so sure about that either. What they might do is use the Darkness deck with vamps and chaos seeds. Hmmmm...

ETA, just checked matchups and they have 2 earth, fire, dark and air. Actually i think it is likely they will use the darkness deck vs me to counter poisons and to steal discords if i play them again so they don't need to bring discords to the fight.

Maybe it's time to pull out a fractal deck, although i do need to check if we have enough pillars. What do you guys think? If you take out that additional aether piller malduk i will be able to use this... Although i might take poisons instead of lightnings and add anther flesh recluse.

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[MrBlonde]

Coinich once again IMO gets the worse matchup. Earth is pretty tough to control. Maybe speed poison with a couple bonewalls?

The good thing about our matchup is we face two time players. I don't think Time can do two stalling aether decks. Remember they also have to account for 4 other decks (aether, life, fire, water).  So maybe Mastermind takes your deck? Or one of you goes entropy and the other speed poison?

As for our aether matchup i don't think they will go creature control again, so maybe just speed poison here as well.

[coinich]

Earth is gonna be a real hard task to beat; they have so many new options open and Earth itself is just plain strong.  What I don't think they will do is draw the game out; Poison rules long matches, though we can't discount Trident and Purify either; a Purify/Trident/Titanium Shield deck could be deadly.  I doubt they will go Gravity/Earth, as they know Otys will likely help us out too much.  Frankly, I expect a Shrieker rush though, as they will likely want to end the match quickly.  The question is which variant; they used both a quantum denial version, Fractal (didn't think this would work, but ok), and I wouldn't cross out the classic Graboid rush as well.

The question I think is how to counter.  One option is a speed poison; the advantages are few towers to lose, but if they use Devourers in force, I could be in trouble.  Also, Purifies could hurt even with my Arsenics, of which I don't have unupgraded.  I could try Phase Shields in conjunction with Flesh Spiders and Fractal but I'm worried also about quanta and Titanium Shield issues.  An Earth/Death deck with Mummies, EQs, and Basilisk's Blood might do alright if I get a good hand.  Discord could be deadly if I had any.  As it is, I need suggestions desperately please.

Actually, a Death/Darkness deck could be interesting, but I'm sure they'll be packing PAs.

[Malduk]

Maybe it's time to pull out a fractal deck, although i do need to check if we have enough pillars. What do you guys think? If you take out that additional aether piller malduk i will be able to use this... Although i might take poisons instead of lightnings and add anther flesh recluse.

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I can swap 2 PUs with 1 Fractal and 1 card like another Mummy or something, so we can salvage 2 more aether pillars to total 14 if you want to take maybe an extra pillar.
That change would make me slightly more vulnerable to bad draws, as I cant fractal fast enough and will have hand filled with shields, but deckout strategy should work.

If you're going with 5, I can take out 1 pillar, no problem.

As for that deck... You're pretty much screwed without shield if Mizzle takes Discord himself.

[MrBlonde]

Earth is gonna be a real hard task to beat; they have so many new options open and Earth itself is just plain strong.  What I don't think they will do is draw the game out; Poison rules long matches, though we can't discount Trident and Purify either; a Purify/Trident/Titanium Shield deck could be deadly.  I doubt they will go Gravity/Earth, as they know Otys will likely help us out too much.  Frankly, I expect a Shrieker rush though, as they will likely want to end the match quickly.  The question is which variant; they used both a quantum denial version, Fractal (didn't think this would work, but ok), and I wouldn't cross out the classic Graboid rush as well.

The question I think is how to counter.  One option is a speed poison; the advantages are few towers to lose, but if they use Devourers in force, I could be in trouble.  Also, Purifies could hurt even with my Arsenics, of which I don't have unupgraded.  I could try Phase Shields in conjunction with Flesh Spiders and Fractal but I'm worried also about quanta and Titanium Shield issues.  An Earth/Death deck with Mummies, EQs, and Basilisk's Blood might do alright if I get a good hand.  Discord could be deadly if I had any.  As it is, I need suggestions desperately please.

Actually, a Death/Darkness deck could be interesting, but I'm sure they'll be packing PAs.

I agree Earth is so strong with so many options. What makes this harder as well is the constrictions on our decks. Last round was easier because we used all different elements but i'm finding this round we are going more towards all the same decks. Anyways comments on your suggestions.

Phase Shields - Malduk will be using phase shields to combat light to deal with there stall and pegasi.

Earth/Deck - sorry we don't have any EQ's or Basilisk Bloods..

Discord - This could work. We have enough entropy pillars and discords i believe to make two decks (i think we are going to use an entropy deck vs Time).

Speed Poison - not a bad option just gotta hope they don't use purify. As long as you can get a bone wall out you can outrush a shrieker rush... unless of course they through out a diamond shield.

Death/Darkness - not a bad bet but you would need pillars since you would need your dusk out early.

Like i said you really ended up with the short stick again with a tough tough element.

[MrBlonde]

I can swap 2 PUs with 1 Fractal and 1 card like another Mummy or something, so we can salvage 2 more aether pillars to total 14 if you want to take maybe an extra pillar.
That change would make me slightly more vulnerable to bad draws, as I cant fractal fast enough and will have hand filled with shields, but deckout strategy should work.

If you're going with 5, I can take out 1 pillar, no problem.

As for that deck... You're pretty much screwed without shield if Mizzle takes Discord himself.

I know.. i will be screwed if early discords come out. BUT like i said they only have 7 left for the whole team so odds are he won't be packing more then 2. And with how last round went with us i think he will use the darkness deck Zeru used with steals and vampires. That would make the most sense to me. If i use this deck i will just go 5 pillars. I want your deck to be as strong as possible. I have more leeway since i can used upped cards.

*sigh* Anyhow i'm thinking i will go with this or the same Entropy deck from first round with some alterations. Really depends on what everyone else does.

[Malduk]

Our options are quite limited by our Vault, which, on hilarious side, is a good thing, as we NEED tons of cards from our own element to be in this war for more than a round or two 

IMO, against  your best bet would be either  with dusk mantle or with discord. I dont think antimatter will be effective much though due to possible rewinds.

Also, speed poison seems like a bad choice as Arsenic wont go past Titanium Shield, and there is absolutely no reason for them not to pack this shield.

[Malduk]

Here's an interesting thought for you Blonde (thanks to ufcs outstanding data mining):
- couple of decks that lost in entropy had more than 30 cards!

Since they only have to discard 30 cards per deck, guess what will they keep? 

I would prepare for discord.

Oh and also, unupped Vampires are... bad. Even with Nightfall.

[ufcfan]

Coinich certainly has a big task in front of him.  Looking at earth's matches, they have so many options, we will not be able to predict what they will do.  We have no real way of stopping earthquake, we cannot use a pillars rush.  I would count on quantum being in very low supply and needing lots of shields to stop the shriekers and the high damaging creatures to get past the shield which should be pa'd.  So.... the only quantum generating non pillar cards we have are the devourers, so I would go with death/darkness.  No mummies as rewind would turn them into useless pharoahs.  But really, there is nothing hard hitting except the dragons and we need lots of death for that.  Maybe try this.
Mark Water
6 freeze
6 chrysaora - needs 1-6 death per turn
6 poison - needs 6 death
14 death pillars
3 bone walls - needs 15 death
2 skull shields - need 2 death

Strategy is to use freeze on larger damage creatures.  Poison as much as possible.  Save enough death quantum to chain the bone walls when health is low. Skull shield to lower damage on smaller attack creatures while we freeze larger attack creatures.  I would like 5-6 bonewalls instead, but they are too expensive when we will probably have to deal with earthquakes.

Everytime I come up with an idea, I try it out and it  does not seem like it will work against earth. 
The only other things I can think of is a death rush with earth as the mark and using all 3 of the enchant artifacts that we have.  Or a death/darkness quantum denial/bonewall/plague deck.

[ufcfan]

Here's an interesting thought for you Blonde (thanks to ufcs outstanding data mining):
- couple of decks that lost in entropy had more than 30 cards!

Since they only have to discard 30 cards per deck, guess what will they keep? 

I would prepare for discord.

Oh and also, unupped Vampires are... bad. Even with Nightfall.

How does that work.  If entropy loses with a 36 card deck containing 6 discords.  They must discard 30 cards, so say they would want the 6 discords.  But the winning team also wants the 6 discords as their salvage cards.  What happens?

[MrBlonde]

Here's an interesting thought for you Blonde (thanks to ufcs outstanding data mining):
- couple of decks that lost in entropy had more than 30 cards!

Since they only have to discard 30 cards per deck, guess what will they keep? 

I would prepare for discord.

Oh and also, unupped Vampires are... bad. Even with Nightfall.

How does that work.  If entropy loses with a 36 card deck containing 6 discords.  They must discard 30 cards, so say they would want the 6 discords.  But the winning team also wants the 6 discords as their salvage cards.  What happens?

It doesn't matter. You can pick duplicate cards. It's in the rules just to keep it simple and so that no one knows what the other keeps. And thanks again for all the help you've given UFCfan!

[ufcfan]

For my round 2 deck, I will wait until everybody has settled on their decks to choose mine from the remaining.  With 5 losses in round 1 my opponent aether should not be too strong.  That and I am really tired.  So I will check back in about 11 hours or so.