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[MrBlonde]

So I woke up after a 4 hour sleep thinking about  . I think I HAVE TO go poison/arsenic.
I was thinking to go duo with  to get some perma control + dusk shields against possible fractal spam, and then I saw we have no Obsidian pillars in the vault 

Anyway, this is my first version that I'd like to try out against some of ya.

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The idea is to try to slow them, and drop dragons when shields are down. Opinions?

Yeah this seems to be okay. Sucks that the vault really became quite limiting in me being able to add pillars and additional counter cards. The only thing i worry about is RoL/Hope decks. Hopefully they are thinking we will counter them with plagues and poison so won't go that route.

The deck that could also work for you is the fog shield/owl eyes deck. The owl eyes can fly and control the board (if they go fractal) and since it's a 35 card deck the poisons should be able to take down a chaining phase shield deck. It will also be much quicker to get out a fog shield (2 quanta vs 6 for dusk) and you have 2 in the deck.  Honestly i kind of regret putting the darkness cards in because the cost of the cards really are pretty high for just a splash.

[MrBlonde]

[Okay, My new deck would be -1 arsenic +3 discord +4 amethyst pillars . See how they like discord themselves!

So here is what it would look like

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Tested it out a little. Seems to run okay. I just worry that if you don't get that discord out by round 2 or 3 you might be sunk. I can't really think of any other options though at this point since the only perm control we have right now are steals and that will surely take too long to get out. Maybe try out this deck and my entropy deck on the first page and see which one you like better.

[Malduk]

So I woke up after a 4 hour sleep thinking about  . I think I HAVE TO go poison/arsenic.
I was thinking to go duo with  to get some perma control + dusk shields against possible fractal spam, and then I saw we have no Obsidian pillars in the vault 

Anyway, this is my first version that I'd like to try out against some of ya.

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The idea is to try to slow them, and drop dragons when shields are down. Opinions?

Yeah this seems to be okay. Sucks that the vault really became quite limiting in me being able to add pillars and additional counter cards. The only thing i worry about is RoL/Hope decks. Hopefully they are thinking we will counter them with plagues and poison so won't go that route.

The deck that could also work for you is the fog shield/owl eyes deck. The owl eyes can fly and control the board (if they go fractal) and since it's a 35 card deck the poisons should be able to take down a chaining phase shield deck. It will also be much quicker to get out a fog shield (2 quanta vs 6 for dusk) and you have 2 in the deck.  Honestly i kind of regret putting the darkness cards in because the cost of the cards really are pretty high for just a splash.

Yeah, I skipped Air as I saw you were using animate weapons. Fog shield is great, but I cant fly anything if you're taking those cards for this round.
I spoke to Unionruler on chat. For some reason, he's concerned he cant stop poison dmg. If there was no Vault, I'd expect him to splash  for Purify/CC and take Dim shields and immortal creatures. Would be almost untouchable for  .
If I take EE, I'm taking a risk of facing untargetable creatures, while with Steal and Arsenic, I can force my way to do some dmg. He wont have many Dim shields anyway as those are better used against other elements, plus they are rather expensive unupped.
I dont think he will go RoL/Hope due to Plague/Bonewall combo, though duo with  could hurt anyway because of Holy Light.

I guess the deck is weakest against rush decks, as my only early stall option is wasting bonewall. Maybe I should replace Mummy with another Bonewall, not sure about that.

[Mastermind79]

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Okay, after more testing the final deck will be that, with  unupped cards

[MrBlonde]

Yeah i just realized (while i was half sleeping) that i already took all the animates save one. But you are right. That deck fails if Union doesn't go fractal. The one thing that is nice though is that you will almost immediately know if he is using purifies. He will have to splash water or have nova's in his deck.

Since you really aren't using that much death quanta maybe drop a pillar for another bonewall or even another dusk shield. I'm thinking you might need that extra mummy. And maybe even drop the plagues for more creatures.

[Malduk]

Since you really aren't using that much death quanta maybe drop a pillar for another bonewall or even another dusk shield. I'm thinking you might need that extra mummy. And maybe even drop the plagues for more creatures.

I'll do some more testing to figure out which version I like more.

Btw, MeeCow vanished, and deadline for posting decks is here... ufcfan from chat would like to replace him which I think we should do, as we're getting auto-loss if MeeCow doesnt show up.

[MrBlonde]

Thanks Malduk, i do appreciate all the work you've done so far for team Death. Your banner, recruiting, and overall help has been awesome.

Anyhow we should brainstorm some decks for ufcfan since he won't have much time to put one together. I also won't be on again til late tonight. So here's a couple decks we could use.

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[MrBlonde]

The more i think about my personal matchup the more i think i need to change my deck. Here are darknesses matchups.

Time - 2
Gravity - 2
Water - 1
Death - 1

They can only play 3 fractal/pest decks. I see them using 2 vs time and probably one against gravity or water. If they packed any purifies i'm sure they will think vampire/dagger will be the way to go.. I could also see an adrenaline/vampire rush deck vs me because of bonewall. Either way poison will be severely hindered in this matchup. If this is the case i'm better off just going mono death, rush with plagues.

So here's the deck i came up with. If i'm wrong i'm probably in trouble vs fractal/pest. If not i think i'm okay since i have no permanents for steals, creature control and sufficient shielding and attack. I'm really hoping they splash water and go purify. This deck also frees up poisons and animate weapons.

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[Malduk]

The more i think about my personal matchup the more i think i need to change my deck. Here are darknesses matchups.

Time - 2
Gravity - 2
Water - 1
Death - 1

They can only play 3 fractal/pest decks. I see them using 2 vs time and probably one against gravity or water. If they packed any purifies i'm sure they will think vampire/dagger will be the way to go.. I could also see an adrenaline/vampire rush deck vs me because of bonewall. Either way poison will be severely hindered in this matchup. If this is the case i'm better off just going mono death, rush with plagues.

As I said before the matchups, if I was them, I'd run vampire deck against death. Pests are not that good as Eclipse is double edged sword, and Poison is pretty cheap spell, while vamps can outheal poison dmg.
Dusk Mantle will also give you a headache.
I'm guessing they will make  against time and possibly water ( works great here too), and  against gravity (for both denial and PA), which leaves you against possible  with vamps, lycans and discords.

Btw, your mono death rush will be screwed against vamped gargoyles/dragons, earthquakes and dusk shield.
Blah, darkness has too many good options 

[MrBlonde]

As I said before the matchups, if I was them, I'd run vampire deck against death. Pests are not that good as Eclipse is double edged sword, and Poison is pretty cheap spell, while vamps can outheal poison dmg.
Dusk Mantle will also give you a headache.
I'm guessing they will make  against time and possibly water ( works great here too), and  against gravity (for both denial and PA), which leaves you against possible  with vamps, lycans and discords.

Btw, your mono death rush will be screwed against vamped gargoyles/dragons, earthquakes and dusk shield.
Blah, darkness has too many good options 

You're right i might be screwed here especially if earthquakes are used. Vamped gargoyles will be pretty nasty though. Dragons are meh. I can kill those pretty easy with plague and my bonewall will hold. Earthquakes are really the big thing.

[ufcfan]

Okay, I have read through this thread, and I just purchased all the cards I need for the deck that is listed for me.  I am going to reread the specific posts that list certain strategies to make sure I am not missing anything.  Any other advice for my deck would be appreciated.

[TheoCT]

MrBlonde, your deck is illegal since we only took 10 flesh recluses and im using 5 and you're using 6. We want to make sure, double sure, then TRIPLE CHECK to make sure ALL decks are 100% legal and able to be built with the cards in our vault.