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Decks for War https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23479.msg299358#msg299358
« on: March 27, 2011, 06:45:19 pm »
Post your decks and ideas here if you have them.

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Re: Decks for War https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23479.msg299426#msg299426
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2011, 07:29:36 pm »
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this could use a balance ,
this is sort of stall/rush, if opponent uses discord, get bonewall up quickly and then use sanctuary, can get to huge amount of poison to the opponent.., could work alot better with those arsenics upped, and of course i'l be tweaking this deck.


will post more ideas after i'l test them.

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ok, now this deck goes for more stall poison, healing while poisoning, that's preety simple, and other teams may be ready for poison, not sure they will prepare for this kind.

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Re: Decks for War https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23479.msg299446#msg299446
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2011, 07:41:46 pm »
The thing I stupidly forgot to send you before going on holiday (sorry):

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AmnzqQaMcm0OdFVBeWlfR09LeHMxd1FkWVdXY2Z6SWc&hl=en&authkey=CO-btJsC#gid=9

Sadly, most of them use Poison, which is definitely going to be too predictable for the first few rounds (then again, we can take advantage of that due to the fact that we'll face either Novabows either Water/[Element] duo's, so we can predict CC stalls or fast rushes... That really doesn't help much -_-.
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Re: Decks for War https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23479.msg299486#msg299486
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2011, 08:15:05 pm »
Others probably have similar builds.  I'm not wedded to mine but it's a good deck to have around.  Side note: My guess is every team will have a novagrabby this time around.  We should consider using more RTs in our decks than we might've for previous wars.
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Re: Decks for War https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23479.msg299518#msg299518
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2011, 09:07:17 pm »
Hehe time to start the fun.

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Re: Decks for War https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23479.msg300111#msg300111
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2011, 03:34:29 pm »
Fractal decks

The 1.27 addition of soul catcher provides great fuel for fractal death decks.  Obvious choices for fractal are:
 - virus (to fuel subsequent fractals)
 - spark (to fuel subsequent fractals)
 - bone dragon
 - flesh recluse

I've found fractal vulture decks too slow and weak compared with bone dragons (or even mummies).

Further, I'd expect opponents to play fractal decks against death with some frequency to counter bone walls.  This should result in our being able to salvage fractals if necessary.

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This fractal dragon deck seems vulnerable, especially against opponents without fragile creatures. 
    Replacing the plagues with viri / retroviri for fractalling helps here+1 skull shield will provide a few death effects as well.Vultures take too long to get going in this context ... better to replace with more viri / dragons / sparks

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This deck works pretty well as is, although it is slow compared to options which take advantage of the new soul catcher card.  On the plus side, it packs quite a bit of defense.


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This deck is solid.


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This deck works too, although again I'd consider using soul catcher with fractal spark to fuel an explosion of dragons.  (e.g., soul catcher + aether towers + fractal spark + bone wall + dragon)

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Re: Decks for War https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23479.msg300207#msg300207
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2011, 07:07:10 pm »
Mrblonde's mono-death rush is obviously worth considering (i think arsenic would be additive).
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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52h 52h 52h 52h 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52t 52t 52t 52t 52t 52tHere's  (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14139.0.html)the deck idea thread from the War2 Death forum.  And here's the most successful deck as reported by blonde in the archive:
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Re: Decks for War https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23479.msg303506#msg303506
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2011, 10:47:10 pm »
DD said here  (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23665.msg323766#msg323766)we may only have a couple days to finalize vaults so we best get crackin.

Well here's some relatively vanilla but effective decks.  I think we should consider having exposure to these cards even if the decks themselves are unspectacular.  Like I said, with a renewed emphasis on nova and immo this War, RT may serve us nicely.

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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52h 52h 52h 52h 52q 52t 52t 52t 52t 52t 52t 542 542 542 542 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rkI'm hopeful that we can sit down at some point over the next couple days and start deciding on decks.  I'm growing concerned that while Death has the most cards of any element, the uselessness of cards like afla, nymph, skeleton, and stalker and the situationalness of cards like vulture and boneyard are leading us down the road of overusing some cards.  And this is a problem we need to address sooner rather than later.

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Re: Decks for War https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23479.msg303529#msg303529
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2011, 11:15:30 pm »
Been running around all day and i forgot that this was posted in the General section. This is the timer we have for vaults. So we have a little time.


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Re: Decks for War https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23479.msg303768#msg303768
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2011, 09:38:59 am »
we  really should take a day when everyone can log into chat, and we could decide everything .
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Re: Decks for War https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23479.msg304259#msg304259
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2011, 10:31:18 pm »
Agreed. Weekends really suck for me unfortunately and i know xdude is not going to be on much if at all. I will start doing prelim vault stuffing later tonight. Hopefully Monday or Tuesday we can all get together and get this hashed out.

Concerning Rasta i think i might need to talk to Kael/DD/SG to see how we need to proceed and perhaps get a replacement if he doesn't come back.

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Re: Decks for War https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23479.msg304406#msg304406
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2011, 02:12:06 am »
Agreed. Weekends really suck for me unfortunately and i know xdude is not going to be on much if at all. I will start doing prelim vault stuffing later tonight. Hopefully Monday or Tuesday we can all get together and get this hashed out.

Concerning Rasta i think i might need to talk to Kael/DD/SG to see how we need to proceed and perhaps get a replacement if he doesn't come back.
I really feel like Rasta's PM was a joke because... well... he's smarter than that.  If I'm wrong about Rasta, now is a bad time for xdude, and we're losing ICB for awhile, the rest of us need to step up and start making some decisions.

I'll be on from 1-4pm EST tomorrow (and sporadically at other times).  I won't be on Monday at all but Tuesday I'll be on 10am-6pm EST.  Can you meet up during any of those times, blonde?

 

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