Deathstalker | Deathstalker

[coinich]

The problem with that is that you need three different kinds of quanta. It would be fastest to go with Nightfall, but even then, a simple shield could overthrow it.

Have you tested how consistent your games are with Fractal, Deathstalker, and Eclipse in your deck? It was really slow for me and had a high chance to have screwed up draws. There is no protection like a Hope deck, so once you bring out the combo, often it's too late to recover.

This.  Fractal does not work viably well with this deck, though someone could attempt an oversized rainbow version with draw, but even then thats far more than the deck's actually worth.  For once, I don't think we have much to worry about from a Fractal combination.

[Malduk]

Anyone else find it pain in the arse that every balancing issue is directly tied to Fractal and almost always Fractal? 

Anyway... As said, this card doesnt work all that well with Fractal. If you're going to use Fractal on this, Eclipse is the only buff you can use, and then you're countered by shields, perma control, and denial decks. That trio deck is slow and very prone to bad draw, and just doesnt work against many decks even if you do get a decent draw.
Fractaling scorpion on the other hand, brings death. 

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Is good.  Still gets outrushed by mono-life and sometimes speedbow, but can easily take down basically any control deck because it builds up poison AND damage quick, w/  8/4 Flesh Recluses for 3 and of course lots of poison.  If I could work in a Dusk Mantle w/o screwing things up too much, it would be golden.

[coinich]

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http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,9472.0.html

[Marvaddin]

All the scorpions got their names from real scorpion species

Great. Now maybe we can change the game description, from "free online fantasy card game" to "free online semi-realistic card game", or "free online fantasy card game with real species names to the scorpions". Jokes aside, dunno why having real names is any good, maybe you could clarify a bit. Please, dont misunderstand me, I dont intend to be unpolite, just to know if this is in the "I do this game the way I like" section, or if its up to discussion.

But thanks anyway for your time, friend. I know you have little time and wasnt even expecting an answer from you.

He was just replying to the fact that you said it wasn't a very scorpion like name where as it obviously is considering a scorpions called that in real life.

On an unrelated note that was a truly dreadful joke.

I realized that, but anyway the name could still be much more scorpion like. Real scorpions names have nothing to do with this, this is a fantasy game.

Even though it's a fantasy game, having things make sense when possible makes... sense.

Just wondering... why call a scorpion deathstalker instead of pit scorpion, bog scorpion or grave scorpion does make... sense?

[Arondight]

Because "Deathstalker" just sounds awesome.

[Innominate]

All the scorpions got their names from real scorpion species

Great. Now maybe we can change the game description, from "free online fantasy card game" to "free online semi-realistic card game", or "free online fantasy card game with real species names to the scorpions". Jokes aside, dunno why having real names is any good, maybe you could clarify a bit. Please, dont misunderstand me, I dont intend to be unpolite, just to know if this is in the "I do this game the way I like" section, or if its up to discussion.

But thanks anyway for your time, friend. I know you have little time and wasnt even expecting an answer from you.

He was just replying to the fact that you said it wasn't a very scorpion like name where as it obviously is considering a scorpions called that in real life.

On an unrelated note that was a truly dreadful joke.

I realized that, but anyway the name could still be much more scorpion like. Real scorpions names have nothing to do with this, this is a fantasy game.

Even though it's a fantasy game, having things make sense when possible makes... sense.

Just wondering... why call a scorpion deathstalker instead of pit scorpion, bog scorpion or grave scorpion does make... sense?

You really think those sound better than "Deathstalker"? TBH I think crappy runescape names for scorpions pale in comparison to an actual species' name.

[Boingo]

I've been fumbling around with the Deathstalker trying to find a good balance.  Flesh recluses/nightfall are a natural combo, but those variations have been posted.  Plate armor/rage potion.....let's just say "very awkward".  Momentum is a good option IMO, so I fleshed it out with a little stall in the form of bone wall + black holes and came up with:

Black Hole Scorpions (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,9980.msg128623#msg128623) (<--Deck thread here)  I originally thought about "Rock you like a Black Hole" but thought the reference was a bit strained.  Anyway...

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[nilsieboy]

why is everyone talking about ecplipse,this is better with momentum

[twinsbuster]

why is everyone talking about ecplipse,this is better with momentum

one ecplipse can power all your Deathstalker
one momentum only buff one

[Fredd0]

Awesome card, I've tryed it a little and have beat some level5 with a random unstoppable deathstalker deck. 

[Boingo]

why is everyone talking about ecplipse,this is better with momentum

I have to agree.  I really wanted this card to work well with eclipse since  and seem such a natural pair, but after grinding T50 in the trainer for a while with both deck types, momentum is clearly the winner.  Not sure exactly why this should be but I have a few thoughts (some of which are stated previously in the thread):

1. Permanent destruction stops this card dead in an eclipse deck.  No direct damage means no poison = dead card.  So many decks have Pulvy/explosion....
2. Waiting for the eclipse card/the quanta to play the card is fatal.  With 6 unstoppables in a deck, you're more likely to draw it sooner.  Plus the price is right as you can play it on turn 2 with just a mark.
3. Shields:  bone shield, permafrost, phase shield, hope, wings (all the most popular shields) lock out the eclipse decks (though steal may allow a side step...)  Winner here is clearly momentum.
4. Eternity/Rewind/lobo is bad news, certainly worse for the momentum decks since there are only 6 possible momentums to play.
5. Antimatter:  a popular CC card in rainbow and decks, does not hurt the momentum decks much at all since the scorpions are only dealing 1 physical damage and continue to deliver 2 poison with each blow.  But the eclipse decks I've tried need flesh recluses to be competitive, and once those are reversed....ugh.
6. Nobody uses purify.  If they did, maybe the higher physical damage of the eclipse decks would tip the scales the other way.