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Re: Deathstalker | Deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9468.msg113161#msg113161
« Reply #48 on: July 13, 2010, 12:07:38 am »
nvm dictartors is better

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Re: Deathstalker | Deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9468.msg113314#msg113314
« Reply #49 on: July 13, 2010, 04:09:15 am »
add 1 attack because they are too poweerful and this way fire sheild would work to help kill them and if its going to b 2 poison per attak make it like 8 quantum needed

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Re: Deathstalker | Deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9468.msg113342#msg113342
« Reply #50 on: July 13, 2010, 04:52:15 am »
add 1 attack because they are too poweerful and this way fire sheild would work to help kill them and if its going to b 2 poison per attak make it like 8 quantum needed
It needs at least 1 attack to poison the opponent...with 0 attack it is useless without a buff.  The card is pretty well balanced as is IMHO, but moving it to 1 attack would make it grossly OP.

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Re: Deathstalker | Deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9468.msg113436#msg113436
« Reply #51 on: July 13, 2010, 11:34:19 am »
I like this card, but I'm just wondering if two poison counters really are worth the trouble. You summon a flimsy creature that you must buff one way or another while there being plenty of creature control to pass around in Elements. Guess I'll leave the rest to testing.

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Re: Deathstalker | Deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9468.msg113644#msg113644
« Reply #52 on: July 13, 2010, 06:16:34 pm »
I like this card, but I'm just wondering if two poison counters really are worth the trouble. You summon a flimsy creature that you must buff one way or another while there being plenty of creature control to pass around in Elements. Guess I'll leave the rest to testing.
That's why its a great card.  OP effect, but needs a buff from a different element to work making it balanced.  I'll probably never use it, but it is a strong card in the right situation.

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Re: Deathstalker | Deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9468.msg113646#msg113646
« Reply #53 on: July 13, 2010, 06:21:04 pm »
eclipse=maximum 2 attack -nearly every damage reducing shield=useless so it can be really powerfull but easily countered

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Re: Deathstalker | Deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9468.msg113655#msg113655
« Reply #54 on: July 13, 2010, 06:33:11 pm »
eclipse=maximum 2 attack -nearly every damage reducing shield=useless so it can be really powerfull but easily countered
Yeah that's what I found in testing on the trainer.  2 damage reduction shield and the scorpion is a paper weight.  That's also after you wait several turns to play the eclipse if its just off your mark.  Playing against heavy perm control and you wait several more turns to do damage.  When it works fast it is beautiful and can get 25ish poison counters in a short few turns.

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Re: Deathstalker | Deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9468.msg113657#msg113657
« Reply #55 on: July 13, 2010, 06:37:50 pm »
Adrenalined arsenics worked much better (with ecclipse, naturally) than the deathstalker. with 6 attack, dmg reducing shields are a breeze, so they still get 2 poison in every turn, and they're incredibly fast. Cheaper and way higher hp, plus they poison without any buffs (except animate weapons, of course, lol).

I tried deathstalkers with momentums and adrenalines, and, well, it's fairly reedonkulous. 4 poison damage a turn is just ludicrous, lol. Throw in some bone walls to help the poison do it's thing, and it's a really scary combination. Momentum means that they'll get in 4 attacks and therefor 4 poison per turn as long as they're alive and un-delayed or frozen. Oh wait, that's right, delays and freeze will only work for one turn ^_^

I'll post the deck I'm working on soon, since it can be insane on a good draw.

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Re: Deathstalker | Deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9468.msg113742#msg113742
« Reply #56 on: July 13, 2010, 07:45:14 pm »
Well, besides my other deck (which I would recommend for serious purposes), I hereby present my:

Deathstalkers Party Deck:
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710 710 710 710 710 710 710 710 710 710 710 71e 71e 71e 71e 71e 7ta 7ta 7ta 7ta 808 808 808 808 808 808 80i 80i 80i 80i
It isn't very reliable, due to the high chance of bad draws, but when you can manage to pull the combo out, it is really fun. (managed to get to 42 poison against a level 3, and he had no healing).
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Re: Deathstalker | Deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9468.msg113982#msg113982
« Reply #57 on: July 14, 2010, 01:21:48 am »
Could I suggest this being called "Bog Scorpion", or "Grave Scorpion", or something alike? Deathstalker looks like a name from something different from the other scorpions, when even the picture is in fact the same. And before entering the thread, I was wondering what type of creature would be a Deathstalker... then, oh, well, another scorpion, same picture, just a different name :P

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Re: Deathstalker | Deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9468.msg114024#msg114024
« Reply #58 on: July 14, 2010, 02:51:06 am »
All the scorpions got their names from real scorpion species

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Re: Deathstalker | Deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9468.msg114204#msg114204
« Reply #59 on: July 14, 2010, 11:01:00 am »
IMO, weakest of the 3 scorpions.

:time scorpio is absurd, so I'll just skip that one and say that :life scorpio that applies poison now and without a need for another element and cards, is much better than this. Not to mention :life has access to adrenaline. It is pretty perfect there - do creature damage as much as you can until your opponent manages to clear the board, and then just finish off with whatever poison you managed to apply.

On the other hand, "home" element of poison has this one that needs another element to work, which is definitely slower than existing ways to apply poison on your opponent. "Double" poison it applies does not offsets the need to have and then draw buff cards from your deck (even if its Nightfall/Eclipse).
I'd make it 1|3 in stats. After all, :death scorpio should be stronger.

 

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