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Title: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: MrBlonde on July 31, 2010, 10:37:10 pm
Using the data from Jdmt's study here is the fastest mono AI3 farmer and the 2nd fastest AI3 farmer OVERALL. Pretty impressive huh? This deck is also the 3rd cheapest of the bunch at 826 electrum and it's average turn to win is 7.086 just behind "No land Stompy" (lava golem/cremation deck). It beats out the mighty shrieker deck in speed and edges out mono-life as well. This deck was not created by me but wanted this posted here in the death deck section.

This deck is perfect for new players because it doesn't use any rares, is pretty cheap, and is very basic to play.

by MrBlonde
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Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: wavedash on July 31, 2010, 11:42:34 pm
Oh wow, just tried out this deck a few times, and it's pretty awesome. Surprisingly fast for such a simple deck.

Would you recommend an Arsenic be throw in if one has it?
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: MrBlonde on August 01, 2010, 12:38:04 am
Oh wow, just tried out this deck a few times, and it's pretty awesome. Surprisingly fast for such a simple deck.

Would you recommend an Arsenic be throw in if one has it?
I personally have not tried this version myself (many other people have tested it though) but i don't see how swapping an arsenic for a dragon would hurt.

ETA - although i am thinking of an upped arsenic. Unupped i'm not so sure, but heck it wouldn't hurt to test it out and report back on what you think.
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: plastiqe on August 01, 2010, 12:42:28 am
Just so ya know, I was quite happy to dethrone the death deck because I couldn't bear the thought of fire not being number 1.

: )

:fire
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: MrBlonde on August 01, 2010, 12:47:19 am
Just so ya know, I was quite happy to dethrone the death deck because I couldn't bear the thought of fire not being number 1.

: )

:fire
Lol i know. BUT to be fair it is a rainbow deck and you do use an arsenic. Death is quite fine having the fastest "mono" AI3 farmer. Now if you like you can attempt to make a faster mono :fire deck.  ;)

And your deck's image is displayed on my Wiki article so i do give the deck it's due credit.
http://elementswiki.co.cc/articles/turns-to-win-study-compilation-by-jdmt/
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: Decktrya on August 01, 2010, 07:56:02 pm
hey btw if you want to upp this deck you should replace mummies for reclueses right?
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: jmdt on August 01, 2010, 08:10:45 pm
Yeah credit for this deck goes to xKelevra.  It was his creation after some speed testing.  When we looked for a mono death deck for the ttw study, I had no idea we would find one this fast; I didn't know death did speed decks.  Mummies ftw.  Yeah this deck has become my recommendation to every new player that asks.

For the upped version of this, ratchetspyr94 and I came up with this: upped mono death speed rush (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10074.0.html).  This deck is very fast and has 4 turn win potentail.  Its great for AI3 and ratchet even uses it for t50 farming.
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: ratchetspyro94 on August 01, 2010, 08:18:49 pm
Yeah credit for this deck goes to xKelevra.  It was his creation after some speed testing.  When we looked for a mono death deck for the ttw study, I had no idea we would find one this fast; I didn't know death did speed decks.  Mummies ftw.  Yeah this deck has become my recommendation to every new player that asks.

For the upped version of this, ratchetspyr94 and I came up with this: upped mono death speed rush (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10074.0.html).  This deck is very fast and has 4 turn win potentail.  Its great for AI3 and ratchet even uses it for t50 farming.
:D I love Death Poison will kill the opponent even when they have shield. With this deck I would try not to fight he Lava golem rushs in t50. But it will even out rush some of the other rushs like Shrieker rush and Life rush.

Have fun with it ppl. :death Rules
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: Higurashi on August 03, 2010, 07:13:10 pm
Oh wow, just tried out this deck a few times, and it's pretty awesome. Surprisingly fast for such a simple deck.

Would you recommend an Arsenic be throw in if one has it?
Yes, definitely. This does even better when you replace two Poisons with two Arsenics. Ish delicious.
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: Tea is good on August 04, 2010, 12:34:00 am
What happens if you upgrade everything?  :D Just wanna know if I should try it that way and get uber money.
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: jmdt on August 04, 2010, 12:56:12 am
What happens if you upgrade everything?  :D Just wanna know if I should try it that way and get uber money.
well an upped mono death is one of the fastest monos out there.  This deck  (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10074.0.html) has a ttw of 6.325 and will essentially never lose versus AI3.  A very stable deck when upgraded
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: pandoras_box on September 05, 2010, 07:06:58 pm
this deck is only for ai3 correct?
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: jmdt on September 05, 2010, 07:10:15 pm
this deck is only for ai3 correct?
Pretty much.  It can farm t50, but it will have a much lower win rate.
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: Kidsinister223 on September 09, 2010, 12:32:48 am
I know I'm kind of new here, but I'm pretty sure a mono darkness > mono death for AI3 farming. Mono darkness can also topple top 50's every now and again. My darkness farming deck beat Jmizzle with 100hp on the final turn, I also got two weapons off that roll :D


edit. whoops, forgot we were in the "death" subsection of Monodecks :p My b, but my point still stands in some abstract context :p
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: jmdt on September 09, 2010, 12:52:56 am
I know I'm kind of new here, but I'm pretty sure a mono darkness > mono death for AI3 farming. Mono darkness can also topple top 50's every now and again. My darkness farming deck beat Jmizzle with 100hp on the final turn, I also got two weapons off that roll :D


edit. whoops, forgot we were in the "death" subsection of Monodecks :p My b, but my point still stands in some abstract context :p
Nope, this deck is one of the top 3 unupped AI3 farmers in the game.

I have the stats to prove it :)
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: Kidsinister223 on September 09, 2010, 12:57:14 am
Alright, I'll concede that it MIGHT win more than my mono-darkness deck, But i'd still contend my mono-darkness deck is a better AI3 farmer because it wins more games at 100hp, better money, better score, better rolls.

Isn't that the point of farming? :p
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: jmdt on September 09, 2010, 01:07:43 am
Alright, I'll concede that it MIGHT win more than my mono-darkness deck, But i'd still contend my mono-darkness deck is a better AI3 farmer because it wins more games at 100hp, better money, better score, better rolls.

Isn't that the point of farming? :p
This mono dark can prolly do 3 games forevery 2 your mono dark does due to its speed.   Althought you may get more EM wins, the mono death will still gain more electrum.
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: Kidsinister223 on September 09, 2010, 01:18:49 am
Interesting logic, I'ma give it a shot then ;)
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: Toimu13 on September 24, 2010, 02:51:22 am
Just so ya know, I was quite happy to dethrone the death deck because I couldn't bear the thought of fire not being number 1.

: )

:fire
Lol i know. BUT to be fair it is a rainbow deck and you do use an arsenic. Death is quite fine having the fastest "mono" AI3 farmer. Now if you like you can attempt to make a faster mono :fire deck.  ;)

And your deck's image is displayed on my Wiki article so i do give the deck it's due credit.
http://elementswiki.co.cc/articles/turns-to-win-study-compilation-by-jdmt/
Go DEATH!
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: xdude on September 30, 2010, 06:08:17 pm
It's a nice deck, though it's annoying when playing vs the  :entropy- :darkness one, as that always kills it.
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: jmdt on September 30, 2010, 06:21:33 pm
It's a nice deck, though it's annoying when playing vs the  :entropy- :darkness one, as that always kills it.
the poisons should be able to finish the :entropy- :darkness elder off.
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: Higurashi on September 30, 2010, 08:11:22 pm
If you get enough of them, it usually does. Most of the time, you will have done enough damage by the time Maxwell's comes out, if it does. Arsenic helps a -lot- here, since his single Steal rarely shows up. It's still the most annoying Elder with this deck, though.
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: PedrinhoOe on October 07, 2010, 08:06:12 pm
If you get enough of them, it usually does. Most of the time, you will have done enough damage by the time Maxwell's comes out, if it does. Arsenic helps a -lot- here, since his single Steal rarely shows up. It's still the most annoying Elder with this deck, though.
If you get an Arsenic and some Poisons in your first hand, you have a great chance to win, even greater if you play some Mummies fast engouh. That's a bit sad for unlucky people, though .-.
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: Dan43 on October 31, 2010, 04:04:11 am
Wow! This is amazing. It's very fast, especially for unupped.
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: TheMartyr24 on October 31, 2010, 05:11:15 am
I used this deck before and gained much electrum.
Now using the all-upgraded death deck to make it faster :)
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: Ekki on October 31, 2010, 07:14:12 am
I must say, this deck is the ULTIMATE UNUPGRADED AI3 FARMER, I so love this deck... It has like 0.5% lose percentage, and a very low ttw, and it's also really cheap!!
+Karma for helping me build my first FG-farming deck  ;)
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: Drake Dranmore on November 12, 2010, 02:07:38 am
Am I to understand that the better you do in a match the better your chances of getting a card?
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: willng3 on November 12, 2010, 02:22:36 am
Am I to understand that the better you do in a match the better your chances of getting a card?
No, this is not true.  The chances of you getting a card from AI3 is always the same no matter what.
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: TheCrazyMango on November 12, 2010, 02:28:59 am
Am I to understand that the better you do in a match the better your chances of getting a card?
No, this is not true.  The chances of you getting a card from AI3 is always the same no matter what.
it is? i thought i noticed that when i got em i won a card more often
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: willng3 on November 12, 2010, 02:36:45 am
Am I to understand that the better you do in a match the better your chances of getting a card?
No, this is not true.  The chances of you getting a card from AI3 is always the same no matter what.
it is? i thought i noticed that when i got em i won a card more often
Starting to get off topic here...
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,590.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,590.0.html)

Back on topic, this was one of the first decks I tried out for AI3.  I later switched to No-Land Stompy when I went after T50.  It's certainly very fast.
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: 5pla5h on November 12, 2010, 04:13:00 am
dont forget to add the pvp version at the bottom ;) (bonewalls ftw)
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: IceMaine on December 14, 2010, 09:28:36 pm
This deck is ridiculously fast.  I've loved death since I started, but it was always rainbow that seemed the best (back before all the new cards and whatnot).

I've lost one AI3 (stupid Maxwell's) and I haven't lost a single PvP.  It seems no one can get cards out fast enough to counter the mummies/dragons and deal with the poison.

+1 internets to the maker of the deck
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: bucky1andonly on January 10, 2011, 08:51:15 am
sell gravity cards
sell 1 boneyard, 1 plague, 1 bone wall
buy 6 mummies
sell 2 virus, 1 flesh spider, 2 vulture, 1 boneyard
buy 4 poisons, 1 bone dragon
sell 2 skeletons, 2 virus
fight a level 0, collect quest money after
buy 2 bone pillars, 1 bone dragon
sell 2 quantum pillars, 1 dagger, 1 skeleton
fight a level 1, collect quest money after
buy 1 bone dragon
sell 1 quantum pillar

deck should be
6 mummies, 6 poisons, 4 bone dragons, 14 bone pillars

my score is 4
fight a level 2 for quest
fight level 3's for 150 score quest


Game-Time-Turns-New Score
   
1   77   7   29
2   74   8   45
3   75   9   61
4   67   8   77
5   91   11   89
6   61   8   101
7   74   9   117
8   111   14   131
9   68   8   147
10   55   7   165 - quest for 150 score done, collect money
-----------------------------
w/l ratio = 13/0
my electrum is at 533 without selling any cards won in spins
cards won = pulverizer, basilisk blood, empathic bond, firefly queen voodoo doll

fight level 3's for 500 score quest


Game-Time-Turns-New Score

1   82   8   182
2   65   7   195
3   67   8   213
4   68   8   225
5   79   9   236
6   64   8   252
7   68   9   268
8   63   8   287
9   81   10   322 - EM
10   74   8   333
11   64   8   345
12   58   7   362
13   73   9   377
14   64   8   412 - EM
15   56   7   428
16   103   11   440
17   91   10   457
18   86    10   447 - LOSS
19   45   6   465
20   110   13   478
21   64   7   494
22   62   8   507 - quest for 500 score done, collect rare weapon of choice
-----------------------------
w/l ratio = 34/1
my electrum is at 1225 without selling any cards won in spins
cards won = pandemonium, armagio, catapult, earthquake, 2 empathic bonds, steam machine, blessing, hope, owls eye, sky blitz

total game time of level 3's fought = 39min (exactly :P)
average turns = 8.625

without the 2 EM's 2 more games would have been played
without the loss 1 less game would have been played
With this deck, roughly 35 games are needed to reach 500 score.

The 1 loss was crazy.  Computer has a wyrm out, blesses it twice right away, and every turn dives.  I thought I was still going to win, but then that is when the miracle was played.


Deck cost = 826
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: Higurashi on January 10, 2011, 08:58:23 am
There is indeed a reason I went for this on my PvP 1 alt. It's worth noting bucky's TTW is 0.7 slower than what was tested in TTW Study 1. While new Elders might slow it down a little bit, he was mainly unlucky.
This makes me want to do TTW for it for TTW Study 2. Maybe I shall.
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: Asmius on January 16, 2011, 03:18:00 am
Wow.

72 seconds, 8 turns. Got the poisons out in tront on the second turn due to pillars, immediately following with three mummies and then several dragons.

Six poison would do it good - best AI3 rusher I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: Asmius on January 16, 2011, 04:26:12 pm
This deck rocks if your foureen pillars are updated. Mummy and poison out first turn, dragon on the third.
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: deadsteve on January 25, 2011, 06:05:45 pm
great deck i love it thnx
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: Archamarge/Venom[ATE] on January 25, 2011, 10:18:45 pm
I know I'm kind of new here, but I'm pretty sure a mono darkness > mono death for AI3 farming. Mono darkness can also topple top 50's every now and again. My darkness farming deck beat Jmizzle with 100hp on the final turn, I also got two weapons off that roll :D


edit. whoops, forgot we were in the "death" subsection of Monodecks :p My b, but my point still stands in some abstract context :p
Nope, this deck is one of the top 3 unupped AI3 farmers in the game.

I have the stats to prove it :)
Can you link the top three mono decks?
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: Higurashi on January 25, 2011, 10:26:04 pm
Back then, the community took stats here: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8813.0.html
It won't have changed much with the new Elders, since the damage is consistent. In fact, since we no longer have an Elder with Purify, this deck might even be faster in relation to decks like frog rush and shrieker rush. Speed Poison was shown to be a little bit faster.

The new TTW Study is here: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,17903.0.html
No one has done stats for this monodeath rush yet. I did one for an upped deathrush, but haven't had time for the unupped one.
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: kuraisasuke on January 27, 2011, 11:53:03 pm
this deck is only for ai3 correct?
I tried it out, and while it primarily works as am AI3 Farmer, It also works extremely well against players in PvP1. Not so hot on the t50 tho
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: Ekki on January 28, 2011, 12:42:57 am
this deck is only for ai3 correct?
I tried it out, and while it primarily works as am AI3 Farmer, It also works extremely well against players in PvP1. Not so hot on the t50 tho
For PvP1 and T50 you should add some bonewalls somehow (i.e. +3 bonewalls -4 poison +2-3 pillars. Yes, it would have more than 30 cards).
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: 5pla5h on January 29, 2011, 07:10:11 am
this deck is only for ai3 correct?
I tried it out, and while it primarily works as am AI3 Farmer, It also works extremely well against players in PvP1. Not so hot on the t50 tho
For PvP1 and T50 you should add some bonewalls somehow (i.e. +3 bonewalls -4 poison +2-3 pillars. Yes, it would have more than 30 cards).
disagreed :P

look at my lovely pvp death rush
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Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: Ekki on January 29, 2011, 07:14:14 am
this deck is only for ai3 correct?
I tried it out, and while it primarily works as am AI3 Farmer, It also works extremely well against players in PvP1. Not so hot on the t50 tho
For PvP1 and T50 you should add some bonewalls somehow (i.e. +3 bonewalls -4 poison +2-3 pillars. Yes, it would have more than 30 cards).
disagreed :P

look at my lovely pvp death rush
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You use poisons, I use dragons, and I like anti deckout :D

But yet, your deck is better, mine was made in 10 secs...
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: SickTanicK on February 09, 2011, 03:52:35 am
This is the deck I've been using for AI3's and I've found that I usually win every 8 out of 10 matches against AI3's. The downside is that it can't get Elemental Mastery's very often, if at all, but it's an easy to use deck to beat AI3's repeatedly, while being non-upgraded. If anyone knows a AI3 farmer that most often gets Elemental Mastery's or one for AI5 that gets EM's a lot it would be appreciated if someone would message me and point me in that direction, I've been checking out some of the AI3 decks and AI5's and I'm not sure which one's actually work, now, because a few that I've tried haven't worked at all.
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: Anu Erebus on February 09, 2011, 05:53:52 am
My personal take on the deck was to replace a mummy with arsenic and half the pillars with pendulums. The arsenic helps add poison damage in the event you get an opponent with good CC or shields while the pendulums are just earthquake protection. It's still a wonderful deck either way but mine is just personal preference.  :D

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Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: DevilLoss on February 16, 2011, 05:41:39 pm
wow im surprised that a death deck could be so fast im kinda scared incase some people start running this in pvp 1 :O
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: Higurashi on February 16, 2011, 06:35:44 pm
For PvP, Bone Wall is a lot more useful than a bit of physical damage. There are many ways to improve this for PvP. Also, it's been popular a good while. No danger here.
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: DevilLoss on February 16, 2011, 10:01:00 pm
earlier when jmdt posted this deck in chat i decided to do a study and this is what i got
out of 50 matches
50 game study for average electrum earned from mono speed death deck.
game 1: win 11 electrum
game 2: win 17 electrum
game 3:win 15 electrum
game 4:win 16 electrum
game 5:win 13 electrum
game 6:win 17 electrum
game 7:win 14 electrum
game 8:win 19 electrum
game 9:win 17 electrum
game 10:win 17 electrum
game 11:win 16 electrum
game 12:win 13 electrum
game 13:win 16 electrum
game 14:win EM40 electrum
game 15:win 17 electrum
game 16:win 17 electrum
game 17:win 18 electrum
game 18:win 13 electrum
game 19:win 13 electrum
game 20:lost 0 electrum
game 21:win 11 electrum
game 22:win 14 electrum
game 23:win 19 electrum
game 24:win 16 electrum
game 25:win 13 electrum
game 26:win 18 electrum
game 27:win 14 electrum
game 28:win 18 electrum
game 29:win 18 electrum
game 30:win 15 electrum
game 31:win 14 electrum
game 32:win 17 electrum
game 33:lose 0 electrum   
game 34:win 17 electrum
game 35:lose 0 electrum
game 36:win 10 electrum
game 37:win 14 electrum
game 38:lose 0 electrum
game 39:win 12 electrum
game 40:win 14 electrum
game 41:lose 0 electrum
game 42:win 14 electrum
game 43:win 15 electrum
game 44:win 15 electrum
game 45:win 13 electrum
game 46:win 15 electrum
game 47:win 18 electrum
game 48:win 18 electrum
game 49:win 15 electrum
game 50:win 18 electrum                       
average electrum earned 13.94 toatal earned 697, 45 wins 5 loses one EM 
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: Bhlewos on March 11, 2011, 08:15:37 am
Just got my first ever EM for AI3 with this deck, and in just half an hour of testing these are the results I got:

AI1: 5|0 - 100% - (2 EM)
AI2: 5|0 - 100%
AI3: 5|0 - 100% - (1 EM)

I'm going to keep trying this deck out but based on the comments here already and its performance so far I think this is gonna be the deck I'm using to grind AIs from now on. Thanks mrblonde and jdmt!

EDIT: After five days of playing with this deck, these were my results:

Total Played: 200
Wins: 177
Losses: 23
Win Rate: 88.50%
Elemental Masteries: 6
Score: +3088
Electrum: +3732
Average TTW: 8.38 turns
Average TTL: 9.94 turns

My conclusion:
Consistent and high win rate, great for AI3 farming. In just five days, 200 matches I made enough for two upgrades and a cheap deck. Considering that this deck is fast enough to finish a match in max 2 minutes, I think this is a very good deck that earns you a lot of money relatively fast.
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: Arceus567 on August 17, 2011, 02:42:12 pm
Hi people, I need help with my :death deck. It can't do too much more than grind Ai3 or PvP1 and I want to upgrade my deck. I can't screenshot easily because I use a Mac, so I will give you a link to my deck. Please help!          http://helltgivre.free.fr/elements/?deck=zD52gz352hz552oz552t71a8pk
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: Artois on August 17, 2011, 03:05:20 pm
you dont need to screenshot, just copy/paste the import/export code

by Artois
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Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: Arceus567 on August 17, 2011, 03:19:59 pm
Wow,fail. This is my first post, so I have no idea about that.
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: Rutarete on August 17, 2011, 05:51:59 pm
Where do you want this deck to go? Towards a big poison build, or a lot of damage?
If you're going for the big poison build, then perhaps a death/water duo would work for you.

Upgrading will just take time. I can try to help more but I'm not sure what you want.
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: Artois on August 17, 2011, 06:01:02 pm
Basically, where do you want to go with this deck?  Why do you want to upgrade?  What is your electrum budget?

If you have collected some cards, and wish to start upgrading, I would suggest upgrading some (super)novas, which are not for this death deck per se but will be useful in many future decks that you may build.

If you wish to spend electrum upgrading this deck, you will invest alot of electrums in death, tying you to future death decks for a long time.

Basically, when upgrading your first cards, look ahead, and upgrade versatile cards that you can use now, but more importantly will be of use in the future!
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: kev on August 17, 2011, 06:14:05 pm
Welcome to the forum! 

Wow,fail. This is my first post, so I have no idea about that.
Please read the stickied thread titled "Read this before posting (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,22665.0.html)" before posting.

It's a good idea to do a forum search before posting a deck.  Your deck, for instance, is MrBlonde's legendary Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10503.0.html) plus one card, and you really should be asking for help with this deck in that thread.  I'll be merging the topic now...
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: nomoney4u on February 29, 2012, 12:58:27 am
I just want to add/update that this deck has been tested by me and I love it.  I have tested many mono-unupped decks for new players to farm and this seems to be a really good deck (cheap too).  The poison bring them down really nice and you dont have to be afraid of the spells like Lightning killing your monsters since they'll die from the poison.  :) Just want to revive this a bit because I tested it and it's amazing and other new players can gain a lot of information from this deck.  :)
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: Einstein Skw on March 27, 2012, 07:34:13 pm
This deck is really awesome, and a very nice one to PvP also!

Thank you!
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: bucky1andonly on March 27, 2012, 10:27:08 pm
Just fyi, I personally tell all noobs to build this deck when they are just starting out, it's cheap, only requires quest 2 completed for the full build and it wins.  Anyone with a mouse can use it, just click click click click.
Title: Death deck for the masses! AI3, 4 PVP 1, 2
Post by: grodslukarenx on July 06, 2012, 03:24:39 pm
Ok, so Ive used this deck, it has taken me from 0 to 3373 in score in less than 7 hours. Its a great deck for AI3, PVP1 and 2 and it works on AI4 aswell. I love it, simple, cheap deck, the arsenic can be replaced with a pillar.
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Title: Unupped AI3 Farmer
Post by: Blasting-Light on August 02, 2012, 10:38:25 pm
Here's the deck :
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CC please.
Title: Re: Unupped AI3 Farmer
Post by: furballdn on August 02, 2012, 10:56:42 pm
It's the exact same thing as mrblonde's mono death rush, only you added an arsenic, 2 skull shields, and stretched it to be 33 cards.
Title: Re: Unupped AI3 Farmer
Post by: Blasting-Light on August 02, 2012, 10:59:29 pm
It's the exact same thing as mrblonde's mono death rush, only you added an arsenic, 2 skull shields, and stretched it to be 33 cards.
Sorry, I didn't really notice that.
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: ChynaWatts on August 18, 2012, 08:01:51 pm
how can you NOT notice that?  :o
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: bob8willie on September 27, 2012, 12:50:42 am
i believe fire immo rush is the fastest, but i like this deck too. simple and too the point
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: TheWatermelon on June 17, 2013, 06:38:40 pm
Add 1-2 skull shields and an arsenic for occasional EM, other than that, this is awesome
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: CuCN on June 17, 2013, 07:20:57 pm
Add 1-2 skull shields and an arsenic for occasional EM, other than that, this is awesome
How do skull shields and arsenic help to get EMs?
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: Silux on July 15, 2013, 10:23:04 pm
Stats!
81games 8776seconds
it gains 657 :electrum/hour average
win rate 76wins 5losses 93.827%

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Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: ColorlessGreen on July 15, 2013, 11:41:15 pm
Stats!
81games 8776seconds
it gains 657 :electrum/hour average
win rate 76wins 5losses 93.827%

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(a) Did you possibly record TTW?
(b) Does that 657/hour include selling spun cards?
(c) Does that 657/hour include bonus electrum from match-2 and match-3?
(d) Were there any EMs?
(e) Thank you! We need all the stats we can get.
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: Silux on July 16, 2013, 11:04:25 pm
i did recorded all data you see.
I just played it again and again without pause with a cronometer and then misured how much i gained.
I'll soon made another test considering also EM, Spin details and TTW.
Revenue from selling cards would be too much to track, but it's roughly extra 20 :electrum per win.
ttw is roughly 6-8, i didn't made an average because variance is soo high that is surely messed out.

a no, just few observations
b no selling cards, just money
c yes, money was recorded after spins
d i didn't recorded data about em, but it's really poor
e no prob!
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: cwkoss on July 17, 2013, 11:49:05 pm
This deck is super fast.   I love it ;D  Its what I've used to grind most of my money.

First, up your pillars.  Then, replace mummies with upped recluses, then up poison, add 2x arsenic and up them when you can, and finally the dragons.

Once you are mostly upped, add a bonewall or two and you can farm AI4 pretty effectively as well.
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: blackflagrevolution2012 on July 20, 2013, 02:19:41 am
Good ai3 farmer, but It needs an arsenic or two. :)
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: Silux on July 20, 2013, 03:07:24 pm
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TTW 7.000
standard deviation 1.165
no elemental masteries
765 :electrum/hour raw gain+spin match
1450  :electrum/hour raw gain+selling cards

i played for an hour with a script that checked if i won/lose and print out the values on the win screen

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I made some math and 2 arsenic would actually slow it a bit.
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: danovan235 on July 28, 2013, 01:47:22 am
I'm amazed at how consistent this deck is.
Title: Re: Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer
Post by: Silux on July 29, 2013, 10:01:33 am
upped can have a win% as high as 98.45% with 130 tests, but you need to have at least 2 nymphs and 2 skull buckler.
Title: DracoPoison Bait [unupped, Arsenic and Shard]
Post by: theelkspeaks on January 27, 2014, 05:04:13 pm
Inspired by the fastest unupped mono farmer AI3, I've been trying to make a competent unupped PVP1 and Bronze Arena deck, incorporating the Arsenic I got from the tutorial quest and the Shard I was lucky enough to spin.  I'm going for high winrate as a priority over turns to win.  Often, using the shard when my opponent has more than 12 damage on the field and is about to put me below 50 HP on his next turn, lets me get a few extra turns to get the damage I need.  How does this deck look?

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My biggest problem is finding a way to deal with Boneyard/Bonewall decks, or Dimensional Shield decks, as my own defenses are lackluster and poison doesn't always kill the opponent fast enough.
Title: Re: DracoPoison Bait [unupped, Arsenic and Shard]
Post by: omegareaper7 on January 27, 2014, 05:16:04 pm
so..... this deck http://elementscommunity.org/forum/death-24/fastest-unupped-mono-ai3-farmer/ + 2 additional cards. Nothing new...
2 additional cards doesn't need a new thread.
Title: Re: DracoPoison Bait [unupped, Arsenic and Shard]
Post by: Fippe94 on January 27, 2014, 05:21:57 pm
If you want a good chance in pvp1, I suggest you add some bonewalls for defense. Maybe -2 dragons -2 pillars -1 mummy +3 bone walls.
You'll want 30 cards for most stable deck.
Title: Re: DracoPoison Bait [unupped, Arsenic and Shard]
Post by: theelkspeaks on January 27, 2014, 05:33:20 pm
so..... this deck http://elementscommunity.org/forum/death-24/fastest-unupped-mono-ai3-farmer/ + 2 additional cards. Nothing new...
2 additional cards doesn't need a new thread.

I wasn't sure if it qualified for a new thread or not, but thought I'd make a new one since my goal (maxing win rate as opposed to minimizing Turns to Win) was different from the original deck, and thought the feedback I'd receive would lead it in a different direction as a result.
blarg: MrBlonde,Artois