War Prep

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Initial vault idea, based on spare cards + the following 10 decks:

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5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5uq 5uq 5ur 5ut 5ut 5ut 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 622 622 622 622 8pu

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5rg 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5ru 5ru 5ru 5ru 5ru 5ru 5t2 5t2 5up 5up 5v1 5v1 5v1 5v1 5v1 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 7q4 7q4 7tb 8ps

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5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5up 5up 5ut 5ut 5ut 5uv 5uv 5uv 5uv 5uv 5uv 606 606 606 606 7ta 7ta 7tb 8pr

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5ld 5ld 5ld 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5ll 5ll 5ll 5ll 5ll 5up 5up 5ur 5ur 5ur 5ur 5v1 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 7n2 7n2 7n2 8pq

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 590 590 590 590 590 590 5i7 5on 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uo 5up 5up 5uu 606 606 606 606 61q 7tb 7tf 7tf 8pm

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593 593 593 593 593 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5up 5up 5uv 5uv 5uv 5uv 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 7tb 7tf 7tf 8pm

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55q 55q 562 562 562 562 562 562 5up 5up 5up 5uu 5uu 5v0 5v0 5v0 5v0 5v0 5v0 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 8pl

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52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 52r 52r 52r 52r 52r 5un 5un 5un 5un 5un 5un 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 8pk

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5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5ul 5up 5up 5uu 5uu 5uu 5uu 5v2 5v2 5v2 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 7t5 7t5 7t5 8pu

Bone Wall Stall combo (containing all key cards from both Oni and Aves' Bone Wall Stall).8 Mark of Darkness
1 Mark of Time
12 Parasite
10 Bone Wall
88 Dark Pendulum
32 Obsidian Pillar
12 Poison
5 Arsenic
6 Drain Life
6 Fractal
12 Vampire Stiletto
4 Dusk Mantle
4 Nightfall
6 Voodoo Doll
12 Devourer
8 Black Dragon
4 Cloak
7 Minor Vampire
16 Gargoyles
14 Steal
10 Liquid Shadow
8 Nightmare
6 Ghost of the Past
12 Reverse Time
2 Time Pendulum
1 Time Factory
4 Wings
3 Solar Shield
4 Blessing
5 Crusader
3 Flying Weapon
6 Nova
6 Graboid
2 Purify
1 Freeze
1 Lightning
1 Shockwave
6 Earthquake
6 Acceleration
2 Momentum
5 Parallel Universe
361 (361 available)Jen-i's anti Domination can be built with EQ Devs + PU LS Dragons and some spare parts :p
Do tell if I made an error/forgot something.

[Jen-i]

Just a couple things - I punched these numbers into a copy of the Vault 2.0 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvdifMTdMyhEdFFOWU0yUWtGU1dsYlJ4Y0ZjUkJmeGc&hl=en_US#gid=31) and it says we'd have 373 cards - 12 more than are actually available.

In addition I haven't run these specific numbers yet - but my preliminary tests leave me a thinking we might run into trouble meeting the 50% rule in later round if we don't hit at least a 62.5% win rate (That's 5-3). Because of the 24 card discard we either end up putting pressure on our quanta or on our other darkness cards with our discards. I'll be able to give you some specific examples later - when I have time to punch in some numbers and test our this vault.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Hmm, I counted it manually and thought I got to 261 o.o
2 Bone Walls and 10 Pends might otherwise have to go.
The thing is that most spare cards are Darkness cards, and when we have to discard cards it's virtually impossible to maintain that strategy since we don't have cards for that, meaning we mostly keep the Darkness cards. That on top of the possibility to convert salvage into pillars/pends leads me to believe it's OK, but do tell me if I'm wrong

[Kuroaitou]

Just a couple things - I punched these numbers into a copy of the Vault 2.0 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvdifMTdMyhEdFFOWU0yUWtGU1dsYlJ4Y0ZjUkJmeGc&hl=en_US#gid=31) and it says we'd have 373 cards - 12 more than are actually available.

In addition I haven't run these specific numbers yet - but my preliminary tests leave me a thinking we might run into trouble meeting the 50% rule in later round if we don't hit at least a 62.5% win rate (That's 5-3). Because of the 24 card discard we either end up putting pressure on our quanta or on our other darkness cards with our discards. I'll be able to give you some specific examples later - when I have time to punch in some numbers and test our this vault.

Some of your inputs were wrong. For example; there are 32 Obsidian Pillars - not 36, as you entered. ^^; this should bring it down a bit...

That said, hopefully we wont' lose too many of the earlier battles, or else... T_T

[Jen-i]

kk thanks Kuro - I entered that in a rush on my way to work this morning - I'll try to be more careful next time

Stupid Net Connection - I lost internet in the middle of my reporting numbers from playing around with torb's suggested vault.

Here's the brief version of what I wrote - it looks good torb - if we have a record of 3-5 or less in any round and we're in trouble and will end up running suicide decks, a record of 4-4 over a couple rounds and things are pretty tight but manageable - Round #3 will get tough. A record of 5-3 or better over the first couple round will be needed by whatever team is gonna take this war. So let's plan on coming out of the gate strong.

[Onizuka]

I'd like to ask everyone to double check the vault for me based on what TorB described in his post sorta above.

Definitely don't need to run into war noticing we missed a few important cards.

[Jen-i]

Last minute I know

Grav pull for dolls
Black hole for UW
Discord cause its discord

But that's just suggestions. We can live without them

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Black Holes could work. Don't think the rest fits in the decks, 6 Black Holes for the 6 extra cards we got