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Re: Vault https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23471.msg300662#msg300662
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2011, 12:03:48 pm »
purple nymphs can be good yeah... and I got 5 of em  :o

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Re: Vault https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23471.msg300684#msg300684
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2011, 12:38:29 pm »
I have these nymphs:  :entropy :entropy :air :air :aether :earth :life

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Re: Vault https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23471.msg300697#msg300697
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2011, 01:05:00 pm »
 :light :gravity :entropy :darkness :water nymphs here
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Re: Vault https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23471.msg300845#msg300845
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2011, 06:01:03 pm »
 :entropy  :entropy  :life  :life  :darkness  :air  :aether  :light   :light  :time :water      for me

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Re: Vault https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23471.msg301002#msg301002
« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2011, 10:06:41 pm »
I think the idea-well is running dry, so lets try putting together some decks to use as a base for our vault, keeping in mind the basic idea for 5 decks countering rushes, 4 to counter stalls and 3 to counter denials, here goes:

(counter rushes) Brimbone, Eagles, Quintagon, Vamparapace, Miracle Stall and 4 Wings.
(counter stalls) Voodolleration, Devtal, Devquake and... Lockbow?
(counter denials) Grabow, Adrenavamps, GotP Nightmare? (maybe +6 Phoenix,) + anti-Discord deck.

I don't know where Vampaders fits in, even though I'd like to add it. Probably to counter rushes, so maybe instead of Eagles.
I'm not really sure which decks counter denial well except Grabow >_< This is just some basic thingmaying I came up with... needs moar!

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Re: Vault https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23471.msg301005#msg301005
« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2011, 10:07:32 pm »
 :aether :life :life :air

Not much help here.
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Re: Vault https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23471.msg301016#msg301016
« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2011, 10:14:57 pm »
Already made a chart on Nymphs in the deckbuilding thread btw, so one can easily see which Nymphs are available to whom when building decks :)

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Re: Vault https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23471.msg301017#msg301017
« Reply #31 on: March 29, 2011, 10:15:47 pm »
Lockbow would counter stalls by draining a max of 6 quanta, along with taking out their pillars and monsters and stuff.
While it can't rush out the power like Grabow, using the devourers it can power the black dragons. Relying mainly on novas to get out the support cards means it'll lose most of its denial aspect late game, but provided a dragon or two/arsenic gets out without being CC'd/PC'd, it probably can get through a denial, while not as effective as graboids.

I'd be happy to test it out against denial decks if anyone is interested.
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Re: Vault https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23471.msg301028#msg301028
« Reply #32 on: March 29, 2011, 10:24:14 pm »
Also, immophoenix is pretty slow to start, pretty slow to move along, and heavily suffers from the devourers costing quanta to summon.

Possibly better to play if the pillars were upped, but we'd probably be better off running something else against other teams in most cases.
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Re: Vault https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23471.msg301145#msg301145
« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2011, 01:13:49 am »
Beef, to counter denial well, any sanctuary deck is fine unless we are talking EQ denial.  We would need to test alll of those decks which I cant do by myself, would be better if ppls how goodthey're deck are with they're flaws so we decide whatto try against what to compare.

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Re: Vault https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23471.msg301319#msg301319
« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2011, 06:37:33 am »
EQ on itself isn't much bother for any deck that has both pillars and pends, just pack a few more (and play them strategically) and they'll win :)
Sanctuary is slow to get out, and not the most reliable thing against Discord (Mith thought up a hard counter, nice, but one wrong guess later on and it's history), though potentially devastating against Devourers (if we know who would use them against us, Life and Time used them last war I think, but that gives no warranty for this war). Main thing I like against denial is to straight outrush them, or have too much quanta to deny (Grabow).

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Re: Vault https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23471.msg301386#msg301386
« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2011, 11:10:51 am »
Yeah I do agree that having grabow is the best option, but sanctuary could be a plan b.  As for outrushing... It can be done but it's hard especially if they get a 2nd turn discord.. and if they won coin flip it's almost impossible.  Also, steal is an option to turn the tides after a few turns  ^-^
Btw, just got a 6th purple nymph... I wish elements would allow trades! ::)

 

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