Strategy

[Mithcairion]

 

Time Pendulum	59	Time Factory	41
Ghost of the Past	24	Nova	12
Reverse Time	21	Dune Scorpion	17
Nightmare	8	Sanctuary	12
Sundial	6	Scarab	6
Aether Pillar	5	Momentum	7
Procrastination	5	Lighting	4
Dimensional Shield	4	Fractal	4
Aether Pendulum	4	Wings	4
Steal	8	Graboid	6
Earthquake	6	Blessing	4
Devonian Dragon	4	Anubis	4
Pharaoh	4	Armagio	4
Discord	5	Deflagration	4
Acceleration	2	Lycanthrope	2
Antimatter	2	Eternity	5
Crusader	6	Fog Shield	1
Golden Hourglass	3	Miracle	3
Precognition	6
Cards Shown	322	Total Vault	421

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[Mithcairion]

 

Water Pillar	54	Water Pendulum	49
Ice Dragon	21	Nova	17
Ice Bolt	15	Steam Machine	10
Freeze	9	Trident	8
Ice Shield	10	Deflagration	6
Toadfish	15	Poison	12
Graboid	8	Immolation	4
Phoenix	4	Momentum	4
Forest Spirit	4	Sanctuary	9
Chrysoara	10	Purify	5
Mind Flayer	4	Arctic Squid	9
Shockwave	3	Light Pillar	3
Light Pendulum	3	Fog Shield	3
Nightmare	3	Morning Star	4
Vampire Stiletto	1	Discord	7
Abomination	2	Acceleration	3
Adrenaline	3	Antimatter	4
Arsenic	2	Blue Crawler	10
Chaos Seed	2	Earthquake	1
Flooding	3	Gravity Pendulum	3
Gravity Pillar	3	Gravity Shield	2
Life Pendulum	4	Miracle	4
Nymph's Tears	4	Reflective Shield	1
Reverse Time	4	Skull Shield	3
Time Factory	3	Time Pendulum	3
Cards Shown	370	Total Vault	473

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[TheonlyrealBeef]

Some things that drew my attention:

Aether, what about them immolations they used against us last time? They can't be gone already. Otherwise denial look so easy.Air, again, they seem ripe for denial, just 6 Novas, seriously? Pestal might be appropriate this time, unless our denial against them is becoming rather predictable, then GotP is a good consideration (all those flying weapons and expensive creatures).Death, looks like they have plenty of bone walls. Good. I want to salvage those some time :

oEarth, lots of rush, and quite some Stalls. The amount of RTs are definetly concerning, but denial looks way to risky with all those novas.Entropy: As much as they have, their control seems to be lacking. Now just to find a way to utilize that. Control heavy decks that don't rely on heavy quanta seem to be the key to victory, Rewind is definetly something to consider.Fire: RoF seems to rule out Cloak, but what happened to them Sancts?Life seems to have an incoherent mumbo jumbo of all sorts of cards... And a severe lack of PC Though their huge amount of Dragons make Wings too risky, and we've already used Dim Shield before :PLight: so few Sanctuaries, really? Even GotP Nightmare almost seems viable looking at that.Time: they sure love their GotPs, a quanta lockdown with Nightmares in it seems so evil... But they used Sanctuary twice already against us. Maybe they'll throw something Nova-ish at us?Water, the team full of Novas and with limited succes with Sanctuary (which I won't expect anytime soon because of that). Rewinds look like a viable option here.[/list]I'd like to hear other thoughts on them as well, and possible gaps in their defenses.

[Onizuka]

Air was well prepared for EQ(4 diff stacks)+Devourers(Toadfish+Squid) last round. But the one thing I've noticed is, similar to life, the lack of PC. They've only used 3 PC cards as of yet, although QuantumT noted something about packing more deflags, which leads me to think they probably have ~6 Deflags.


I was actually thinking about Quintagon here. Quint>CC, added LS>FQ (Although packing too many would be bad), DS>PC less deck.
But GotP would probably work well too, But it would need steals to counteract OE. Air can also pack 2 upped cards in each deck, so that should be taken into consideration too.

[Onizuka]

Our best bet against Entropy is probably our grabow. Nothing we've tried to far has worked, and at least nova prevents discord. We also like controlbows, but we can't use RT with unless you add some time towers/pends.

Against light, they probably won't be able to resist using something like Arsenaders or dune scorps. Either that or their grabbow again, which is probably unlikely.

I really want to say adrenavamps again. I /really/ want to. It just has to be modified to with control (lightning/LS) to avoid a situation like last time. I think making it bigger would probably hurt it too much, so something has to be taken out. Also, if you face something like what happened last time, don't wait for the combo. Just play it out.

I have no clue what to bring against Fire, maybe PU dragons+LS.


Also, I'd like to strongly disagree with giving up dragons this early. Giving up our dragons now would be a bad idea in my opinion, since once we start losing 30 cards, we'll probably regret it. We don't have enough attackers in my opinion.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Our best bet against Entropy is probably our grabow. Nothing we've tried to far has worked, and at least nova prevents discord. We also like controlbows, but we can't use RT with unless you add some time towers/pends.

I could tinker some with this to see if I can get something to work. If it does better than Liquid Anti-bow it's definetly an option.

Against light, they probably won't be able to resist using something like Arsenaders or dune scorps. Either that or their grabbow again, which is probably unlikely.

Both would be easily countered with Wings + Purify, but I got to say, they might as well throw a Fire Stall at us : /

I really want to say adrenavamps again. I /really/ want to. It just has to be modified to with control (lightning/LS) to avoid a situation like last time. I think making it bigger would probably hurt it too much, so something has to be taken out. Also, if you face something like what happened last time, don't wait for the combo. Just play it out.

Against Water? I was thinking GotP Nightmare. Steamies, Mind Flayers, Forest Spirits, Dragons, Graboids... all of them are useless compared to that.

I have no clue what to bring against Fire, maybe PU dragons+LS.

Hmm, I'd rather not... I'll think of something soon.

Also, I'd like to strongly disagree with giving up dragons this early. Giving up our dragons now would be a bad idea in my opinion, since once we start losing 30 cards, we'll probably regret it. We don't have enough attackers in my opinion.

Attackers are useless if we don't have the quanta to use them. We have to be prepared to lose 0-8, and still be able to field decent decks afterwards. We need the spare quanta, that and the fact that we were going to use less mono-ish decks makes Dragons the perfect choice. It's just 2 of them.

[Onizuka]

I could tinker some with this to see if I can get something to work. If it does better than Liquid Anti-bow it's definetly an option.

Both would be easily countered with Wings + Purify, but I got to say, they might as well throw a Fire Stall at us : /

Against Water? I was thinking GotP Nightmare. Steamies, Mind Flayers, Forest Spirits, Dragons, Graboids... all of them are useless compared to that.

Hmm, I'd rather not... I'll think of something soon.


Attackers are useless if we don't have the quanta to use them. We have to be prepared to lose 0-8, and still be able to field decent decks afterwards. We need the spare quanta, that and the fact that we were going to use less mono-ish decks makes Dragons the perfect choice. It's just 2 of them.

I see your point about GotP Nightmare, although a modded adrenavamps performed pretty good against their decks as well if we see fit to send GotP somewhere else.

I was arguing on the fact that I thought we had 12 dragons. not 14, so I'll drop that.

And yes to the rest of your points.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

by TheonlyrealBeef

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This went 6-4 against burning cats, takes lots of practice, since you need to time everything correctly, late sundials and rewinds and everything. Will see if it's any good against the other 2 decks now (otherwise Liquid Antibow might be the way to go, since Grabow went 4-6 against Burning Cats : / )

Edit: epically fails against Mono Entropy, since it recovers from Rewind with ease.

[Mithcairion]

All vaults have been updated for every other element.  I may go back and re-do  and  , but I would rather focus on deckbuilding for now, unless you guys think it would be helpful.  Also, I haven't done ours, since I don't have that info easily accessible to me as opposed to the info for other teams' vaults, so if someone else wants to put that together, by all means, have at it.  A quick word about  's vault:  The reason that their cards shown is greater than their vault total is because, well, they've been that bad and they have actually shown more cards than they actually currently have due to the fact that they've lost that many matches.

[suxerz]

Lighting	3	Quintessence	3
Parallel Universe	5	Fractal	5
Dimensional Shield	6	Wings	4
Flying Weapon	3	Shockwave	2
Obsidian Pillar	41	Gargoyle	11
Black Dragon	14	Voodoo Doll	6
Devourer	17	Nightmare	6
Dusk Mantle	3	Cloak	6
Steal	11	Dark Pendulum	63
Nightfall	4	Vampire Stiletto	8
Drain Life	6	Black Nymph	3
Minor Vampire	8	Darkness Mark	1
Liquid Shadow	8	Arsenic	1
Graboid	5	Earthquake	9
Nova	14	Acceleration	6
Momentum	2	Gravity Pull	2
Adrenaline	6	Light Pillar	2
Solar Shield	2	Crusader	4
Blessing	5	Sanctuary	3
Reflective Shield	1	Light Pendulum	3
Time Factory	1	Ghost of the Past	6
Reverse Time	8	Time Pendulum	2
Freeze	1	Purify	2
Cards Shown	332	Total Vault	478

The cards that are still hidden to public are the entropy cards, owl's eye and miracles.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Just Lycans, AMs (+ Nymphs), Miracles, Owls and Discords are hidden huh? Hmm, we'll already be exposing AMs, Miracles and possibly Owls and a Lycan (though a lot of them could've been salvaged, hehe). Anyone know someone we can surprise with our pet Discords this round?
Though with only 332 cards shown there is plenty of room for them to guess for, which is good
I hope they prepare for decks we can't even build, hehehe.

Too bad we won't be facing Gravity, now that they're more predictable than ever before : /

[suxerz]

This is what I can gather at the end of Round 6. (Will add more later...)

Earth
Identified: 183 out of 193
Current Vault: 223

	Stone Pillar	31		Fog Shield	1
	Antlion	3		Deflagration	2
	Stone Dragon	5		Sapphire Charger	3
	Titanium Shield	2		Gravity Shield	2
	Graboid	18		Momentum	2
	Enchant Artifact	2		Time Factory	2
	Earthquake	10		Reverse Time	11
	Stone Skin	12		Time Pendulum	4
	Basilisk Blood	7		Purify	2
	Earth Pendulum	28		Lycanthrope	1
	Pulverizer	2		Nova	6
	Forest Spirit	1		Antimatter	3
	Light Pillar	3		Discord	3
	Sanctuary	6		Abomination	2
	Light Pendulum	3		Purple Dragon	1
	Miracle	5

Entropy
Identified: 189 out of 213
Current Vault: 207

	Amethyst Pillar	29		Fog Shield	4
	Abomination	13		Shockwave	1
	Purple Dragon	13		Flying Weapon	1
	Lycanthrope	3		Vampire Stiletto	1
	Chaos Seed	4		Deflagration	4
	Nova	13		Immolation	3
	Antimatter	5		Lava Golem	1
	Pandemonium	7		Phoenix	2
	Schrodinger's Cat	4		Gravity Pull	2
	Entropy Pendulum	35		Black Hole	4
	Discord	11		Forest Spirit	2
	Purple Nymph	2		Sanctuary	6
	Graboid	8		Miracle	5
	Earthquake	3		Purify	3

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