Round 6 - Strategy

[TheonlyrealBeef]

are you referring to the 3 underworld's deck?
i think antimatter is our best option
steals wont help against flying titan had they decide to go that route again
and i cant see them attempting the entropy/darkness duo against us
that leaves the other rainbow which is their 2nd best option
they cant really attempt a new deck archetype with what they'll salvage, at best maybe some sort of entropy/air but still retaining at least 2 nova-based rainbow decks
and though discord dont cripple rainbow, it is still a valid weapon choice whereas antimatter + LS (from black nymphs) will cripple any of their rainbow had they decide to go that route

edit: they might attempt entropy/air duo with flying OEs/Discords against us
which leaves them with no flying titan-bow but still 2 nova-based rainbow, one of which will certainly be darkness OR air heavy (since decks they salvage and combined with cards they already have got the most of those 2 elements - but still not enough to make a duo of some sort on their own)

(i must really stop thinking about this...overthink is overkill)

How do I stop J-Jo's fractal using antimatter? and he can quake out my pillars for dis shield and can even deflag or steal it

As far as I can tell they have exactly 1 Fractal, they can salvage up to one Nightfall making for one pathetic deck when it gets down to consistency. If you were already winning by the time he uses Fractal, I doubt it could make a difference
Fractalling anything but Devourers is likely to cause quanta problems to get them out.

Discord + Black Hole might indeed be the biggest concern from UW.

[kobisjeruk]

fractal is hardly a cause for concern
they need to have the best possible hand and a goddamn nigh-impossible luck with RNG to even attempt fractal-dev combo
discord+BH on the other hand is a definite and most probable things they will field against us and in this case, entropy/darkness is better than rainbow grabs unless you're thinking of taking one other deck that we've got, fractal

[TheCrazyMango]

hmm i dont think ill be running fractal.... it epic fails against immo decks. and i cant really make decks because i dont know what cards we have. old vault FTL.
just checked our battle results so all we have left is rainbow graboids and antimatter? depressing....
ok i think i might run a darkness entropy duo with at least 3 discords if we have that many. so can all of you set up discord farms? atm i only have 2...

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4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vl 4vl 4vl 5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5uo 5uq 5uq 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606my first prototype of my possible deck this round. if we have all those cards that is...

This deck will be dead against fire. I'll probably say no to letting you use it.

any suggestions for what i should use

[Kael Hate]

145 R5 Vault Deck Salvage Conversion Offset TRUE TOTALS 247 127 120 18 0 25 145 145 0 0 DARKNESS 0 Obsidian Pillar 12 11 8 -3 0 8 Black Dragon 6 3 3 0 3 Devourer 6 1 5 4 0 5 Dusk Mantle 4 3 4 1 0 4 Steal 6 5 7 2 0 7 Nightfall 5 0 2 2 0 2 Drain Life 5 3 3 0 3 Minor Vampire 8 2 2 0 2 Liquid Shadow 1 1 1 0 1 Gargoyle 7 6 6 0 6 Nightmare 2 2 -2 0 0 Black Nymph 2 2 2 2 Dark Pendulum 49 20 28 9 1 29 Vampire Stiletto 4 2 2 0 2 AETHER Aether Pillar 6 0 0 0 Lightning 7 2 2 0 2 Dimensional Shield 8 0 0 0 Phase Dragon 4 0 0 0 Fractal 8 3 4 1 0 4 Pendulum 0 0 0 0 AIR Owl's Eye 2 0 0 0 Shockwave 5 0 0 0 Wings 3 0 0 0 Fog Shield 1 0 0 0 DEATH Bone Pillar 2 0 0 0 Bone Wall 1 0 0 0 Arsenic 4 1 -1 0 0 EARTH Graboid 12 12 12 0 12 Earthquake 6 6 6 6 ENTROPY Amethyst Pillar 5 5 2 3 5 Dissipation Shield 4 4 -1 3 3 Butterfly Effect 2 0 0 0 Lycanthrope 5 5 7 2 0 7 Chaos Seed 1 1 1 0 1 Nova 17 17 12 5 17 Antimatter 7 4 5 2 1 6 Purple Nymph 3 0 0 0 Discord 5 2 1 1 2 3 Pandemonium 0 0 2 2 2 Purple Dragon 0 0 1 1 0 1 LIGHT Reflective Shield 1 0 0 0 WATER Freeze 2 1 -1 0 0 Purify 2 0 0 0 GRAVITY Momentum 1 1 -1 0 0 LIFE Horned Frog 6 2 2 0 2

Modifier Card T + - Kael Hate Salvage 30 6 24 Lycanthrope 2 2 Nova 6 Discord 3 Entropy Pendulum 6 Black Dragon 3 Devourer 6 4 Dusk Mantle 1 Steal 2 Lightning 1 kobisjeruk Salvage 30 6 24 Purple Dragon 1 1 Discord 3 1 Antimatter 2 2 Butterfly Effect 2 Pandemonium 2 2 Dragonfly 2 Azure Dragon 2 Fog Shield 1 Flying Weapon 1 Air Pendulum 14 Guy_Fawkes Salvage 30 6 24 Obsidian Pillar 4 Black Dragon 2 Devourer 4 Dusk Mantle 1 1 Steel 2 2 Nightfall 2 2 Aether Pillar 8 Fractal 4 1 Pendulum 3

Deck # * * * Kael Hate - Novahate 30 Nova 6 Graboid 6 Lycanthrope 1 Lightning 1 Horned Frog 1 Obsidian Pillar 4 Dusk Mantle 1 Steal 4 Gargoyle 2 Dark Pendulum 3 Vampire Stiletto 1 * * * * kobisjeruk - Fractalisjeruk 30 Black Dragon 1 Devourer 5 Dusk Mantle 1 Nightfall 2 Minor Vampire 2 Dark Pendulum 12 Steal 1 Drain Life 2 Fractal 4 * * * * Kuroaitou - Novaitou 0 Lycanthrope 1 Nova 6 Graboid 6 Lightning 1 Horned Frog 1 Obsidian Pillar 4 Dark Pendulum 3 Dusk Mantle 1 Steal 2 Gargoyle 4 Vampire Stiletto 1 * * * * 9270984 - Purplecache 0 Lycanthrope 5 Antimatter 5 Discord 1 Chaos Seed 1 Purple Dragon 1 Amethyst Pillar 2 Liquid Shadow 1 Black Dragon 2 Dark Pendulum 10 Drain Life 1 Dusk Mantle 1 * * * *

KAEL

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4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 590 590 590 5bu 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uo 5up 5up 5up 5up 5uv 5uv 606 606 61q 77g 77g 77g 7t4 7tb 7umGonna rush.

If I see mark of Aether, I'll take the shields.
If I see mark of entropy, I'll take his pillars.
If I see mark of darkness, I'll laugh,
If I see mark of gravity, I'll hold nova till I can cast something. They may only use 3 of a card in their decks.

[kobisjeruk]

i'd like to go for something like this :-

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5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5uo 5uq 5uq 5ut 5ut 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 61o 622 622 622 622 622 63a
salvage required :-
2 nightfall (guy_f)
1 dusk mantle (guy_f)
1 dusk mantle (kael)

[Kael Hate]

i'd like to go for something like this :-

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5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5uo 5uq 5uq 5ut 5ut 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 61o 622 622 622 622 622 63a
salvage required :-
2 nightfall (guy_f)
1 dusk mantle (guy_f)
1 dusk mantle (kael)

Not exactly correct in salvage but can be done. Because we lost 5 devs in Kuro's deck I have to salvage them. makes it hard to pick up those lycans but can't have everything can we.

[Kael Hate]

Lets fix 9270984's deck by throwing in some antimatter against phoenix.
Black Nymph would be nice there but pairings suck ass.
Good chance its another Immo deck or just heavy dragon deck. I doubt they'd bring a creatureless deck this round.

[TheCrazyMango]

ive been having bad t50 luck(ive won like 5 pillars and 1 weapon since monday) so il take it down to 2 discords

[kobisjeruk]

Not exactly correct in salvage but can be done. Because we lost 5 devs in Kuro's deck I have to salvage them. makes it hard to pick up those lycans but can't have everything can we.

i can make do with just 5 devourers and 4 fractals, but will be needing at least 1 fractal from salvage if the vault is correct
get those lycans, they're awesome (no need to strengthening a deck if it weaken others)

switch -1 dev -1 fractal for 2 pendulums/pillar if needed be
OR
if we have some more, 1-2 steal, 1-2 drain life would be awesomer (or 1 stiletto)


i require these number of cards in the deck for it to work :-

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5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5uo 5uq 5uq 5ut 5ut 622 622 622 622

[Kael Hate]

Not exactly correct in salvage but can be done. Because we lost 5 devs in Kuro's deck I have to salvage them. makes it hard to pick up those lycans but can't have everything can we.

i can make do with just 5 devourers and 4 fractals, but will be needing at least 1 fractal from salvage if the vault is correct
get those lycans, they're awesome (no need to strengthening a deck if it weaken others)

switch -1 dev -1 fractal for 2 pendulums/pillar if needed be
OR
if we have some more, 1-2 steal, 1-2 drain life would be awesomer (or 1 stiletto)


i require these number of cards in the deck for it to work :-

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5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5uo 5uq 5uq 5ut 5ut 622 622 622 622

So the Aether Pillar and Pendulum can go too? I can give you 4 dark pendulum for those 4 letting us salvage real cards but a winning deck is better. I'll put it on the maybe list if we need to come back abd make that 5th deck.

[kobisjeruk]

So the Aether Pillar and Pendulum can go too?

of course
whatever you feel necessary is fine with me

[Kael Hate]

Ok, Updated again.

Kobisjeruk
 - Only 2 stilleto, given to Kuro and Myself, Might be ok for kuro to take Arsenic instead if he has a black Nymph in his collection to swap in.
 - Not enough Dusk Mantle, but I can swap your steal for 1 if you really want. Steal seems better for neutralising dissipation shield or discord but your call there.

927084
 - Plenty of antimatter for big dragons or phoenix so you can get the wolves out. Remeber not to deploy more than 1 not powered up so they cannot get card advantage with and Rain of Fire. Use Drain life and Liquid as removal or if they are low on life couple with antimatter

Kuro
 - Standard Novaoid deck. More muscle in yours more steal in mine.


 - I could take the nymphs instead of gargoyles, which can go into kuros deck which means he can take arsenic(upped) and pass off Stilletto to Kobisjeruk. Let me Know what you 2 want to do


Opinions, tweaks, let me know so I can fit them in.

Our last 25 cards will build a nice Quaker or Stall deck if we get some good salvage.