Round 6 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting

[Kael Hate]

A New table of gear.

Current situation, improving the quality of the decks we have.
Making a 24 card deck so we can ad salvage from next round wins to make a new competitive deck. (Can assume we turn the salvage into 6 pendulums/pillars)

145 R5 Vault Deck Salvage Conversion Offset TRUE TOTALS 247 127 121 18 0 24 127 145 18 18 DARKNESS 0 Obsidian Pillar 12 11 11 0 11 Black Dragon 6 3 3 0 3 Devourer 6 1 1 0 1 Parasite 0 0 0 0 Dusk Mantle 4 3 3 0 3 Steal 6 5 5 0 5 Nightfall 5 0 0 0 Drain Life 5 3 3 0 3 Minor Vampire 8 2 2 0 2 Liquid Shadow 1 1 1 0 1 Gargoyle 7 6 6 0 6 Voodoo Doll 0 0 0 0 Nightmare 2 2 2 0 2 Black Nymph 2 2 2 0 2 Dark Pendulum 49 20 20 0 20 Vampire Stiletto 4 2 2 0 2 AETHER Aether Pillar 6 0 0 0 Lightning 7 2 2 0 2 Dimensional Shield 8 0 0 0 Phase Dragon 4 0 0 0 Quintessence 0 0 0 0 Fractal 8 3 3 3 AIR Owl's Eye 2 0 0 0 Shockwave 5 0 0 0 Wings 3 0 0 0 Fog Shield 1 0 0 0 DEATH Bone Pillar 2 0 0 0 Poison 0 0 0 0 Bone Wall 1 0 0 0 Arsenic 4 1 1 0 1 TIME Reverse Time 0 0 0 0 Eternity 0 0 0 0 Sundial 0 0 0 0 Time Factory 0 0 0 0 Devonian Dragon 0 0 0 0 Precognition 0 0 0 0 EARTH Graboid 12 12 12 0 12 Earthquake 6 6 6 0 6 Basillisk Blood 0 0 0 0 ENTROPY Amethyst Pillar 5 5 4 1 5 Dissipation Shield 4 4 2 2 4 Butterfly Effect 2 0 0 0 Lycanthrope 5 5 5 0 5 Chaos Seed 1 1 1 0 1 Nova 17 17 17 0 17 Antimatter 7 4 4 0 4 Purple Nymph 3 0 0 0 Discord 5 2 2 0 2 LIGHT Reflective Shield 1 0 0 0 Miracle 0 0 0 0 WATER Freeze 2 1 1 0 1 Purify 2 0 0 0 GRAVITY Momentum 1 1 1 0 1 FIRE Deflagaration 0 0 0 0 LIFE Emerald Pillar 0 0 0 0 Horned Frog 6 2 2 0 2 Cockatrice 0 0 0 0 Heal 0 0 0 0 Life Pendulum 0 0 0 0

Modifier Card T + - Kael Hate Salvage 30 6 24 Lycanthrope 2 Nova 6 Discord 3 Entropy Pendulum 6 Black Dragon 3 Devourer 6 Dusk Mantle 1 Steal 2 Lightning 1 kobisjeruk Salvage 30 6 24 Purple Dragon 1 Discord 3 Antimatter 2 Butterfly Effect 2 Pandemonium 2 Dragonfly 2 Azure Dragon 2 Fog Shield 1 Flying Weapon 1 Air Pendulum 14 Guy_Fawkes Salvage 30 6 24 Obsidian Pillar 4 Black Dragon 2 Devourer 4 Dusk Mantle 1 Steel 2 Nightfall 2 Aether Pillar 8 Fractal 4 Pendulum 3 plastiqe Nothing 0 0 0 Kuroaitou  Discard 30 0 30 Fractal 5 5 Lightning 5 5 Devourer 5 5 Dusk Mantle 1 1 Nightfall 2 2 Minor Vampire 2 2 Dark Pendulum 9 9 Vampire Stiletto 1 1 Theonlyrealbeef Discard 30 0 30 Aether Pillar 6 6 Dimensional Shield 6 6 Phase Dragon 3 3 Steal 1 1 Drain Life 1 1 Minor Vampire 2 2 Gargoyle 1 1 Dark Pendulum 9 9 Vampire Stiletto 1 1 Lokiburn4 Discard 30 0 30 Owl's Eye 2 2 Shockwave 5 5 Wings 3 3 Fog Shield 1 1 Black Dragon 3 3 Drain Life 1 1 Minor Vampire 2 2 Dark Pendulum 11 11 Obsidian Pillar 1 1 Nightfall 1 1 3D House of Beef Discard 30 0 30 Nightfall 2 2 Dimensional Shield 2 2 Phase Dragon 1 1 Bone Pillar 2 2 Bone Wall 1 1 Arsenic 3 3 Butterfly Effect 2 2 Antimatter 3 3 Purple Nymph 3 3 Discord 3 3 Reflective Shield 1 1 Purify 2 2 Freeze 1 1 Horned Frog 4 4 9270984 Nothing 0 0 0

Deck # * * * Kael Hate - Novakael 30 Nova 6 Graboid 6 Lycanthrope 1 Lightning 1 Horned Frog 1 Obsidian Pillar 4 Dusk Mantle 1 Steal 2 Drain Life 1 Gargoyle 2 Black Nymph 1 Dark Pendulum 3 Vampire Stiletto 1 * * * * kobisjeruk - Novakobi 30 Chaos Seed 1 Nova 6 Graboid 6 Freeze 1 Lightning 1 Devourer 1 Obsidian Pillar 3 Dusk Mantle 1 Steal 2 Drain Life 1 Gargoyle 2 Black Nymph 1 Dark Pendulum 3 Vampire Stiletto 1 * * * * Guy_Fawkes - Nova-Quake 30 Lycanthrope 1 Nova 5 Arsenic 1 Momentum 1 Earthquake 6 Horned Frog 1 Obsidian Pillar 4 Black Dragon 1 Dusk Mantle 1 Minor Vampire 2 Gargoyle 2 Nightmare 2 Dark Pendulum 3 * * * * plastiqe - Antimatteresqe 31 Lycanthrope 3 Dissipation Shield 2 Amethyst Pillar 4 Antimatter 4 Discord 2 Black Dragon 2 Steal 1 Drain Life 1 Liquid Shadow 1 Dark Pendulum 11 * * * * Kuroaitou - Dark Fractal 30 * * * * TheonlyrealBeef - Dim Shielder 30 * * * * lokiburn4 - Wing-Shock 30 * * * * 3D House of Beef - Leftovers 0 * * * * STOCK 6 Fractal 3 Amethyst Pillar 1 Dissipation Shield 2 * * * * CONVERSION 0 * * * *

[TheonlyrealBeef]

It looks like we could easily build Fractal Devourer as a fourth deck with:
- 6 Devourers
- 2 Minor Vamps (needs swapping around)
- 5 Fractals
- 10 Pendulums (conversion)
- 2 Nightfalls
- 5 other cards (preferably a stiletto, a shield and 3 other cards depending on matchup, like 3 Drain Lifes)

But we shouldn't decide what decks to built untill the matchupes from round 6 are known IMO. Not that it hurts exploring what's possible without hurting other decks too much.

[TheCrazyMango]

It looks like we could easily build Fractal Devourer as a fourth deck with:
- 6 Devourers
- 2 Minor Vamps (needs swapping around)
- 5 Fractals
- 10 Pendulums (conversion)
- 2 Nightfalls
- 5 other cards (preferably a stiletto, a shield and 3 other cards depending on matchup, like 3 Drain Lifes)

But we shouldn't decide what decks to built untill the matchupes from round 6 are known IMO. Not that it hurts exploring what's possible without hurting other decks too much.

if i would be using it, i would prefer 3 mantles but i dont think there are enough. i love my haxx shields

[kobisjeruk]

-2 bone pillars
-1 bonewall
-2 arsenic
-4 horned frog

convert material

lol, where'd you get these from?

I'd guess from the outdated vault.

Outdated as in, from those that are included in the suicide deck.

my bad
i completely forgot about the suicide deck and only thought about what were left in vault
but there is no issue about outdated vault, vault should always stay updated, failing to keep the vault updated means my head on a plate

in retrospect we should've increase the number of dusk mantle in the starting vault
using 3 mantle leave some others mantle-less as of right now and at a greater risk of losing all 3 if the deck suffer a loss

[Kael Hate]

-2 bone pillars
-1 bonewall
-2 arsenic
-4 horned frog

convert material

lol, where'd you get these from?

I'd guess from the outdated vault.

Outdated as in, from those that are included in the suicide deck.

my bad
i completely forgot about the suicide deck and only thought about what were left in vault
but there is no issue about outdated vault, vault should always stay updated, failing to keep the vault updated means my head on a plate

in retrospect we should've increase the number of dusk mantle in the starting vault
using 3 mantle leave some others mantle-less as of right now and at a greater risk of losing all 3 if the deck suffer a loss

Meh to the Vault. Its too hard to read and as long as its valid at the end of the period so we don't get a penalty I don't care for it.

I don't think more Dusk was really needed in the opening vault. Our biggest issue was continual repetitive losses of identical deck types. Yes those types are technically strong, but luck means we are winning matchups with half-caste allrounders more often than refined power decks that have left-sided weaknesses. To be fair all the decks played should do well across the board. My stall deck won 10 out of 10 phoenix rushes in testing but failed in 2 consecutive games agaisnt ryan.