Round 5 - Master decks

[TheonlyrealBeef]

I don't like Black Dragon in fractal Devourer, especially not when facing Light (unless you really want to give them something to point their holy lights at). They are dead cards for a long time most of the time, you want to throw empty your hand and fill it back with fractal, instead of keeping cards like the dragon in your hand to fractal later, effectively reducing Fractal's effectiveness. I already tested with Kuro and Black Dragons helped him 0% of the time. Even a Minor vamp for the same quanta would've been more useful.
I could understand -1 vamp +1 nightfall, though.

I could replace one minor vamp with a Nightfall in my deck should it be required for someone else to use the vamps. Reduces effectiveness, but it's not a dead card.

[Kael Hate]

I lost my cool and rebuilt all your decks more efficiently within the stock available.

Any of the Darkness cards in the salvage column can probably be turned into something else if desired.

Of the cards in the Leftovers deck, 12 need to be converted, 6 kept as stock.

Complaints, Opinions?

[TheCrazyMango]

just a comment but when is the round 5 decks thread being put up? or does this thread count???

[Kael Hate]

just a comment but when is the round 5 decks thread being put up? or does this thread count???

Still got a day or so

[TheonlyrealBeef]

I'd suggest keeping 3 Fractals and 3 Nightfalls (for the sake of legitimate decks) and convert 4 Basilisk Blood, 4 Earthquakes, 2 Momentums and 2 Dim Shields (the cards I deem to be most useful for gravity).

[kobisjeruk]

honestly i dont think 8 pendulum is enough for the fractal deck
10 is my comfort zone but 9 could work
i would suggest this changes if we go with kael decklist instead

kobisjeruk - Novakobi	30
Lightning	1
Nova	6
Graboid	6
Lycanthrope	1
Freeze	1
Obsidian Pillar	3
Dusk Mantle	1
Steal	2
Drain Life	1
Nightfall	1
Gargoyle	2
Black Nymph	1
Dark Pendulum	3
Vampire Stiletto	1
* * *	*
Kuroaitou - Dark Fractal	30
Fractal	5
Lightning	5
Devourer	5
Dusk Mantle	1
Nightfall	2
Minor Vampire	2
Dark Pendulum	9
Vampire Stiletto	1
* * *	*

kj's
-1 arsenic, -1 obsidian pillar, +1 lightning +1 nightfall (partially dead)

kuro's
-1 lightning, +1 darkness pendulum (if we can convert 24) or obsidian pillar (from my deck if we cant)

[Kael Hate]

honestly i dont think 8 pendulum is enough for the fractal deck
10 is my comfort zone but 9 could work
i would suggest this changes if we go with kael decklist instead

kj's -1 arsenic, -1 obsidian pillar, +1 lightning +1 nightfall (partially dead) kuro's -1 lightning, +1 darkness pendulum (if we can convert 24) or obsidian pillar (from my deck if we cant)

Can't drop or convert that obsidian pillar unless there is a 24 convert rule change
Rule 3.2 says only able to conver 12 and I already accounted for that

Another ruling saying 24, Point it out for me I'd love to use it.[/td][/tr][/table]

[kobisjeruk]

i'll ask if the 24 convert rule is in effect now or later

[lokiburn4]

As a whole team, the decks look much better now, thanks Kael.

[lokiburn4]

Um... isn't devourer pretty useless against rainbow? I might be better off with the nightfall. 

[3D House of Beef]

Lokiburn4 is now "Watched" as well?  Tough neighborhood around these forums.

In any case, got my power back after 4000 dollars worth of effort to get my up to code... (almost, they need to come fix a few more things on the 30th), and the inside of my house is no longer icing up.  15 hours left, I'm shortly going to sleep, I'll check in in the morning to see what is left for the forfeit deck, after the morning it gets busy around here because of the holiday, and I won't be on until after the deadline.  I just want to make sure the forfeit deck cards are clear before the time is up.

[kobisjeruk]

heres my suggested decklist based on kael latest mindmelt
those that remain unchanged i put in spoiler tag, 3 decks got a minute edit

Kael Hate - Novakael

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4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 590 5bu 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uo 5up 5up 5us 5uv 5uv 5v8 606 606 606 61q 77g 77g 77g 77g 77g 7tbkobisjeruk - Novakobi

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4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 590 590 590 590 590 590 5i7 5uk 5uk 5uk 5um 5uo 5up 5up 5ur 5us 5uv 5uv 5v8 606 606 606 61q-1 arsenic -1 obsidian pillar, +1 lightning +1 devourer

Kuroaitou - Dark Fractal

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5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5ut 5ut 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 622 622 622 622 622 7ta 7ta 7tb-1 lightning, +1 dark pendulum

TheonlyrealBeef - Dim Shielder

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5up 5ur 5us 5ut 5ut 5uv 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61v 61v 61vlokiburn4 - Wing-Shock

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5og 5ol 5ol 5on 5on 5on 5on 5on 5oo 5oo 5oo 5uk 5ul 5ul 5ul 5uq 5us 5ut 5ut 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606-1 dark pendulum -1 devourer, +1 nightfall +1 obsidian pillar

plastiqe - Antimatteresqe

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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vg 4vg 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vl 4vl 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vn 5ul 5ul 5up 5us 5uu 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606Guy_Fawkes - Nova-Quake

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4vi 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52q 55q 593 593 593 593 593 593 5i7 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5ul 5uo 5ut 5ut 5uv 5uv 5v1 5v1 606 606 6063D House of Beef - cheese

thoughts? comments?