Round 5 - Master decks

[Kael Hate]

MASTER DECKS -

Well its rtound 5 and we are at Impasse. This will be the time we make our final decks to carry use through to the endgame. Thes decks need to be Quaility over quantity.

247 R4 Vault Deck Salvage Conversion Offset TRUE TOTALS 403 189 241 58 0 6 247 247 0 0 DARKNESS 0 Obsidian Pillar 37 12 12 0 12 Black Dragon 18 5 6 1 0 6 Devourer 16 6 6 0 6 Parasite 6 0 0 0 Dusk Mantle 6 3 4 1 0 4 Steal 20 5 6 1 0 6 Nightfall 6 5 5 0 5 Drain Life 12 3 5 2 0 5 Minor Vampire 8 8 8 0 8 Liquid Shadow 4 1 1 0 1 Gargoyle 15 5 7 2 0 7 Voodoo Doll 2 0 0 0 Nightmare 2 2 2 0 2 Black Nymph 2 2 2 0 2 Dark Pendulum 64 4 49 33 12 0 49 Vampire Stiletto 6 3 4 1 0 4 AETHER Aether Pillar 6 6 6 0 6 Lightning 12 7 7 0 7 Dimensional Shield 10 10 8 -2 0 8 Phase Dragon 4 4 4 0 4 Quintessence 4 0 0 0 Fractal 8 8 5 3 8 AIR Owl's Eye 2 0 2 2 0 2 Shockwave 6 2 5 3 0 5 Wings 3 3 3 0 3 Fog Shield 0 0 1 1 0 1 DEATH Bone Pillar 2 2 2 0 2 Poison 6 0 0 0 Bone Wall 4 1 1 0 1 Arsenic 4 4 4 0 4 TIME Reverse Time 4 0 0 0 Eternity 2 0 0 0 Sundial 2 0 0 0 Time Factory 0 0 0 0 Devonian Dragon 0 0 0 0 Precognition 0 0 0 0 EARTH Graboid 12 12 12 0 12 Earthquake 12 10 6 -4 0 6 Basillisk Blood 10 4 -4 0 0 ENTROPY Amethyst Pillar 5 5 4 1 5 Dissipation Shield 4 4 2 2 4 Butterfly Effect 2 2 2 0 2 Lycanthrope 11 5 5 0 5 Chaos Seed 1 1 1 0 1 Nova 12 12 17 5 0 17 Antimatter 7 7 7 0 7 Purple Nymph 3 3 3 0 3 Discord 8 5 5 0 5 LIGHT Reflective Shield 2 1 1 0 1 Miracle 4 0 0 0 WATER Freeze 2 2 2 0 2 Purify 2 2 2 0 2 GRAVITY Momentum 3 3 1 -2 0 1 FIRE Deflagaration 0 0 0 0 LIFE Emerald Pillar 0 0 0 0 Horned Frog 0 0 6 6 0 6 Cockatrice 0 0 0 0 Heal 0 0 0 0 Life Pendulum 0 0 0 0

Modifier Card T + - Kuroaitou  30 6 24 Reverse Time 4 4 Eternity 2 2 Obsidian Pillar 4 4 Black Dragon 2 2 Devourer 4 4 Steal 2 2 Gargoyle 4 4 Dark Pendulum 7 6 1 Nightfall 1 1 3D House of Beef 30 6 24 Owl's Eye 2 2 Shockwave 4 3 1 Obsidian Pillar 4 4 Black Dragon 6 6 Steal 3 3 Liquid Shadow 3 3 Dark Pendulum 8 1 7 Lokiburn4 30 6 24 Earthquake 2 2 Basillisk Blood 6 6 Obsidian Pillar 10 10 Dusk Mantle 1 1 Vampire Stiletto 1 1 Drain Life 4 2 2 Gargoyle 6 2 4 kobisjeruk 30 6 24 Lycanthrope 6 6 Discord 3 3 Obsidian Pillar 1 1 Devourer 6 6 Dusk Mantle 1 1 Steal 2 2 Drain Life 1 1 Dark Pendulum 10 6 4 plastiqe 30 6 24 Obsidian Pillar 6 6 Black Dragon 5 1 4 Dusk Mantle 1 1 Steal 2 1 1 Vampire Stiletto 1 1 Dark Pendulum 6 4 2 Lightning 5 5 Quintessence 4 4 Theonlyrealbeef 30 6 24 Poison 6 6 Bone Wall 3 3 Parasite 6 6 Steal 2 2 Voodoo Doll 2 2 Dark Pendulum 11 6 5 Kael Hate 34 10 24 Reflective Shield 1 1 Miracle 4 4 Sundial 2 2 Steal 4 4 Drain Life 4 4 Dark Pendulum 18 10 8 Vampire Stiletto 1 1 9270984 30 6 24 Emerald Pillar 5 5 Horned Frog 6 6 Cockatrice 6 6 Heal 6 6 Life Pendulum 7 7 Guy_Fawkes 30 6 24 Lycanthrope 2 2 Nova 6 5 1 Discord 3 3 Momentum 2 2 Deflagaration 1 1 Fog Shield 1 1 Time Factory 8 5 Devonian Dragon 4 4 Precognition 3 3

Deck # * * * Kael Hate - Novakael 30 Nova 6 Graboid 6 Lycanthrope 1 Lightning 1 Horned Frog 1 Obsidian Pillar 4 Dusk Mantle 1 Steal 2 Drain Life 1 Gargoyle 2 Black Nymph 1 Dark Pendulum 3 Vampire Stiletto 1 * * * * kobisjeruk - Novakobi 30 Chaos Seed 1 Nova 6 Graboid 6 Freeze 1 Lightning 1 Devourer 1 Obsidian Pillar 3 Dusk Mantle 1 Steal 2 Drain Life 1 Gargoyle 2 Black Nymph 1 Dark Pendulum 3 Vampire Stiletto 1 * * * * Kuroaitou - Dark Fractal 30 Fractal 5 Lightning 5 Devourer 5 Dusk Mantle 1 Nightfall 2 Minor Vampire 2 Dark Pendulum 9 Vampire Stiletto 1 * * * * TheonlyrealBeef - Dim Shielder 30 Aether Pillar 6 Dimensional Shield 6 Phase Dragon 3 Steal 1 Drain Life 1 Minor Vampire 2 Gargoyle 1 Dark Pendulum 9 Vampire Stiletto 1 * * * * lokiburn4 - Wing-Shock 30 Owl's Eye 2 Shockwave 5 Wings 3 Fog Shield 1 Black Dragon 3 Drain Life 1 Minor Vampire 2 Dark Pendulum 11 Obsidian Pillar 1 Nightfall 1 * * * * plastiqe - Antimatteresqe 31 Lycanthrope 3 Dissipation Shield 2 Amethyst Pillar 4 Antimatter 4 Discord 2 Black Dragon 2 Steal 1 Drain Life 1 Liquid Shadow 1 Dark Pendulum 11 * * * * Guy_Fawkes - Nova-Quake 30 Lycanthrope 1 Nova 5 Arsenic 1 Momentum 1 Earthquake 6 Horned Frog 1 Obsidian Pillar 4 Black Dragon 1 Dusk Mantle 1 Minor Vampire 2 Gargoyle 2 Nightmare 2 Dark Pendulum 3 * * * * 3D House of Beef - Leftovers 30 Nightfall 2 Dimensional Shield 2 Phase Dragon 1 Bone Pillar 2 Bone Wall 1 Arsenic 3 Butterfly Effect 2 Antimatter 3 Purple Nymph 3 Discord 3 Reflective Shield 1 Purify 2 Freeze 1 Horned Frog 4 * * * * STOCK 6 Fractal 3 Amethyst Pillar 1 Dissipation Shield 2 * * * * CONVERSION 12 Earthquake 4 Basillisk Blood 4 Momentum 2 Dimensional Shield 2 * * * *

Darkness Cards Plausible 117 (including Nightmare and Black Nymph and Nightfall)
Darkness Cards Used in  Decks 115

Any of the Darkness cards in the salvage column can probably be turned into something else if desired.

[kobisjeruk]

1 fractal-dev
1 discord-dev
1 EQ-dev
1 rainbow grabs
1 mono (do we have enough?)

thats all i can think of

[TheCrazyMango]

1 fractal-dev
1 discord-dev
1 EQ-dev
1 rainbow grabs
1 mono (do we have enough?)

thats all i can think of

i would like to make a mono if we have enough to make not just post

[TheonlyrealBeef]

With so few Darkness cards I'd disrecommend mono.
The vault does contain a lot of dim shields, so we could build 1-2 dim shield stalls
Usng 5 Grabbies per Rainbow could allow for 2 Rainbow Graboids as well.

[Kael Hate]

ok, I've got 7 preliminary decks
Should be able to flesh them out with dark cards from salvage and be 6 dark cards upto get rid of nightmare and other rubbish cards.

Opinions?

[TheonlyrealBeef]

A few points:
- what about the nymphs? we still have a lot of those in our vault.
- Fractal + Dim shield is probably not going to work. Even with a lot of Darkness pendulums it simply eats away aether quanta, adding the super-quanta-expensive Phase Dragon to one of them doesn't help.
- 3 Time Factories + Eternity seems odd, I'd personaly thought about salvaging novas from that match, because of their versatility.

I know options are limited, but it's better to get 6 good decks than 4 good decks and 3 decks that barely stand a chance against competitive decks.

[Kael Hate]

A few points:
- what about the nymphs? we still have a lot of those in our vault.
- Fractal + Dim shield is probably not going to work. Even with a lot of Darkness pendulums it simply eats away aether quanta, adding the super-quanta-expensive Phase Dragon to one of them doesn't help.
- 3 Time Factories + Eternity seems odd, I'd personaly thought about salvaging novas from that match, because of their versatility.

I know options are limited, but it's better to get 6 good decks than 4 good decks and 3 decks that barely stand a chance against competitive decks.

Suggestions on moving cards around?

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Last 3 decks

Fractal

5 Fractal
5 Lightning
20 other (about 12 Pendulums)

Dim Shield

6 Dim Shields
3 Phase Dragons
6 Aether Pillars
15 other (again, quite some pendulums)

EQ Rainbow (?)

6 EQs
5 novas
1 arsenic
1 Freeze
1 Momentum
1 BBs
15 other

[Kael Hate]

Nice. I'm brain fried from tables.

Last 3 decks

Fractal

5 Fractal
5 Lightning
20 other (about 12 Pendulums)

Might Not be possible, due to the darkness count. I might be able to swindle a 6th lightning tho.
Let me do some calculations and If I can we'll do this.

Dim Shield

6 Dim Shields
3 Phase Dragons
6 Aether Pillars
15 other (again, quite some pendulums)

Nice, should be able to swing that.

EQ Rainbow (?)

6 EQs
5 novas
1 arsenic
1 Freeze
1 Momentum
1 BBs
15 other

I like this, but we have to lose 2 lycans and the fog shield.

Still better IMO than the others I had, I'll try and work them.

[kobisjeruk]

i'm liking that dim.shield+dragon suggestion
not to use myself but maybe for someone else not facing fire, entropy or darkness abusing teams
the old deck seems too slow in producing aether and didnt use dim.shield as stall
this one should be a bit better

[TheCrazyMango]

for the fractal deck i think that torb is right no phase dragons or stalling. fractals and phase shields dont really mix
and i guess ill co corrupt a fractal deck with lightnings*grumble grumble*
and if possible to make the phase stall legal, i would add lightnings for cc

[Kael Hate]

K think I sung it, had to lose some lycans from antimatter (replaced with Antimatter) and a lightning from a rainbow deck (replaced with arsenic) .


Darkness Cards Plausible 116 (including 2 Nightmare and 2 Black Nymph)
Darkness Cards Used in Decks 112