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Re: Round 4 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15674.msg201812#msg201812
« Reply #36 on: November 15, 2010, 07:53:58 pm »
im thinking annoying haxxor monodark
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i havent tested this deck against life but from testing ai3 it works great. i might tweak it a little bit later after some testing.
sure you wanna go with just 6 pillars? i know its mono and all but if you happen to get a screwy hand (no devo)
or if they kill your devos early you quanta production will be really slow
i'd go with -1 dusk, -1 dragon, +2 pillar just to be careful
but its your call 9#

i made this deck as an annoying control deck and i might take out a dragon and the stiletto because i rely on the dusk mantle and if i dont draw one its not that good of a deck. but ill try it with -1 drag, -1 vamp stiletto and +2 pillars
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Re: Round 4 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15674.msg201880#msg201880
« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2010, 10:26:28 pm »
6 Pillars is way way way too little when you're running 6x Dragons and Drain Lifes, I'd be putting in minimum 10 pillars in that deck 927.

Since 3D isn't using the Phase Shields perhaps I should go that route?  Thing is if it is our stall vs their stall they'll win by deckout.  Here's what I was thinking against Entropy.  Not as quick as Rainbow Graboids, but still has untargetables and extra CC. 
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Fractal Devourer would also be a great counter to their Dis Shield stall, but not so good against Nova.  Well, looking for feedback, what do ya'll think?

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Re: Round 4 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15674.msg201908#msg201908
« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2010, 11:00:30 pm »
Fractal Devourer would also be a great counter to their Dis Shield stall, but not so good against Nova.  Well, looking for feedback, what do ya'll think?
Don't ask me, I have picked the wrong deck for my opponents choice twice now.  They pretty much run Discord in everything (who can blame them), and have lots of cards to play with.  I'd just want to make sure I could Steal that Discord and turn it around on them if they run it.  Other than that, all depends what they run.  They have a lot of options.

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Re: Round 4 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15674.msg201936#msg201936
« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2010, 11:44:07 pm »
i am going with this deck:
-see after for final deck-

this is a good counter against a poison stall or earthquake/denial...
since we used quinted dragons both times against them, they might not pack a lot of rewind/bb's

open for suggestions :)

EDIT: I am slightly under the 50% darkness composition, so i am thinking about adding one more darkness card rather than taking out a bb or lightning... that0s because i want to have a deck against deckout.
I will think about the other card today at work :P

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Re: Round 4 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15674.msg201950#msg201950
« Reply #40 on: November 16, 2010, 12:01:07 am »
6 Pillars is way way way too little when you're running 6x Dragons and Drain Lifes, I'd be putting in minimum 10 pillars in that deck 927.

while my deck is slow to start, i usually get a dusk mantle out around turn 4 or 6. once i get that out, im just waiting for quanta to play dragons and killing creatures with drain life.
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Re: Round 4 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15674.msg201971#msg201971
« Reply #41 on: November 16, 2010, 12:14:25 am »
i am going with this deck:
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this is a good counter against a poison stall or earthquake/denial...
since we used quinted dragons both times against them, they might not pack a lot of rewind/bb's

open for suggestions :)
Only 15 Darkness cards, take out the Lightning or the Basilisk Blood.

927 you're likely to have an opening hand with 1 pillar, and could easily go 3-4 turns without drawing your 2nd.  That is way too slow.  Devourer ≠ pillar.

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Re: Round 4 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15674.msg201972#msg201972
« Reply #42 on: November 16, 2010, 12:16:19 am »
927 you're likely to have an opening hand with 1 pillar, and could easily go 3-4 turns without drawing your 2nd.  That is way too slow.  Devourer ≠ pillar.
that is true but i tweaked it a bit.
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Re: Round 4 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15674.msg202164#msg202164
« Reply #43 on: November 16, 2010, 06:11:41 am »
6 Pillars is way way way too little when you're running 6x Dragons and Drain Lifes, I'd be putting in minimum 10 pillars in that deck 927.

Since 3D isn't using the Phase Shields perhaps I should go that route?  Thing is if it is our stall vs their stall they'll win by deckout.  Here's what I was thinking against Entropy.  Not as quick as Rainbow Graboids, but still has untargetables and extra CC. 
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Fractal Devourer would also be a great counter to their Dis Shield stall, but not so good against Nova.  Well, looking for feedback, what do ya'll think?
Besides the fact that Diss Shield blocks it completely, there's the fact that it only has quanta heavy creatures, while Discord might leave you with low quanta for quite some time, -1 Dragon +1 Pillar?

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Re: Round 4 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15674.msg202180#msg202180
« Reply #44 on: November 16, 2010, 07:13:06 am »
6 Pillars is way way way too little when you're running 6x Dragons and Drain Lifes, I'd be putting in minimum 10 pillars in that deck 927.

Since 3D isn't using the Phase Shields perhaps I should go that route?  Thing is if it is our stall vs their stall they'll win by deckout.  Here's what I was thinking against Entropy.  Not as quick as Rainbow Graboids, but still has untargetables and extra CC. 
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Fractal Devourer would also be a great counter to their Dis Shield stall, but not so good against Nova.  Well, looking for feedback, what do ya'll think?
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Re: Round 4 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15674.msg202181#msg202181
« Reply #45 on: November 16, 2010, 07:16:48 am »
i am going with this deck:
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this is a good counter against a poison stall or earthquake/denial...
since we used quinted dragons both times against them, they might not pack a lot of rewind/bb's

open for suggestions :)

EDIT: I am slightly under the 50% darkness composition, so i am thinking about adding one more darkness card rather than taking out a bb or lightning... that0s because i want to have a deck against deckout.
I will think about the other card today at work :P
Locked in without BB. Tweaking will be adjusted for after if required.

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Re: Round 4 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15674.msg202182#msg202182
« Reply #46 on: November 16, 2010, 07:20:00 am »
927 you're likely to have an opening hand with 1 pillar, and could easily go 3-4 turns without drawing your 2nd.  That is way too slow.  Devourer ≠ pillar.
that is true but i tweaked it a bit.
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Re: Round 4 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15674.msg202325#msg202325
« Reply #47 on: November 16, 2010, 03:11:50 pm »
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Against Dogg.


I'm a bit worried that they're trying to play mind games with us at this point, especially as I spectated them using the Flying Titan deck against Fractal Vampires (which they still lost anyway, but that was due to the vampire-glitch bug). I'm wondering if they would use any PC (mainly Steal) against me, assuming that they don't use it against their other match-ups against Time, Aether, and perhaps even Entropy.

 

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