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Round 3 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15284.msg195426#msg195426
« on: November 07, 2010, 12:52:06 am »
The matchups:

:air pervepic
:darkness Kuroaitou

:light Ryan666
:darkness 3D House of Beef

:fire catalyzeme
:darkness plastiqe

:death MrBlonde
:darkness 9270984

:darkness Guy_Fawkes
:fire jmdt

:water vinvick3714
:darkness kobisjeruk

:darkness Lokiburn4
:aether artagas

:earth Legit
:darkness Theonlyrealbeef

:darkness Kael Hate
:water Essence

Tough match-ups against generals, lieutenants and what not. Also the first time we face :aether and :earth.

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Re: Round 3 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15284.msg195504#msg195504
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2010, 03:06:45 am »
CRAP. i might just go with another fractal deck and a prayer.
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Re: Round 3 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15284.msg195526#msg195526
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2010, 04:07:43 am »
i suspect they will be expecting fractal deck but it ALWAYS have a chance barring any unlucky draws
just be wary of plague
this is what i've come up with (anti-Death) in case we go with my suggestion on what to salvage from R2 :-

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5la 5la 5lc 5lc 5lc 5lc 5lc 5li 5li 5uk 5uk 5ul 5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5uo 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606bonewall shut it down good but if they're expecting fractal, they might forego it altogether
arsenic is a problem, i wanted to add steals but i feel like 2 dusk mantle is absolute necessary in this deck
and since you'll be facing a general, i think they might go the rush route
either mono death with Flesh Recluse or Fractal-Recluse since it is the best death creature upped
leaning more towards mono death rush since we're heavy on denial theme (including fractal)

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Re: Round 3 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15284.msg195675#msg195675
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2010, 09:26:00 am »
i'll be using something like below if we salvage the required cards
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5og 5og 5ol 5ol 5on 5on 5on 5on 5on 5um 5um 5um 5um 5up 5uq 5uv 5uv 5uv 5uv 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606
else i'll be going with some sort of denial strat (most probably the same deck as before)

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Re: Round 3 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15284.msg195694#msg195694
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2010, 10:38:11 am »
Unless Earth kicks in their own Rainbow Graboid I'd like to go with either:
- Fractal devourer:
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5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5up 5up 5uq 5uq 5ur 5ut 5ut 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 622 622 622 622It's extremely heavy on pendulums with only 4 Fractals since I suspect EQs.

- EQ denial:
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593 593 593 593 593 593 5uk 5uk 5uk 5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5up 5up 5ur 5uv 5uv 606 606 606 606 606 606 606What's better irony than using their own EQs against them? Rainbow graboid would slaughter this deck.

- Wing Dingz
We don't have 5 or 6 wings now, do we?

Note: if a player keeps using the same deck it gets predictable, eventually leading to suicide. Once they know what deck you'll use they will have the perfect counter ready. And I judge every team capable of building such a counter.

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Re: Round 3 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15284.msg195696#msg195696
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2010, 10:46:26 am »
Unless Earth kicks in their own Rainbow Graboid I'd like to go with either:
- Fractal devourer:
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5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5up 5up 5uq 5uq 5ur 5ut 5ut 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 622 622 622 622It's extremely heavy on pendulums with only 4 Fractals since I suspect EQs.

- EQ denial:
Code: [Select]
593 593 593 593 593 593 5uk 5uk 5uk 5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5up 5up 5ur 5uv 5uv 606 606 606 606 606 606 606What's better irony than using their own EQs against them? Rainbow graboid would slaughter this deck.

- Wing Dingz
We don't have 5 or 6 wings now, do we?

Note: if a player keeps using the same deck it gets predictable, eventually leading to suicide. Once they know what deck you'll use they will have the perfect counter ready. And I judge every team capable of building such a counter.
I would strong advise you NOT to use Earthquakes against :earth for one reason: Protect Artifact.

If they even have one or two in a deck, you're screwed. Since they obviously are prepared against Steals, having PA is obviously a -huge- incentive for them to carry, so the Earthquake strat may already fail (especially since I revealed that deck alongside you in Round 2).

The fractal deck would work, but the Wings deck might be the best option you have. I have no idea what to counter Pervepic yet, and since I screwed up against Istari.... T_T

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Re: Round 3 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15284.msg195731#msg195731
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2010, 12:26:41 pm »
add 1 dragon if you must go fractal torbeef (titanium shield makes minor vampire cry)

perv might go flying weap.deck again
its not that our deck is bad last round, its just that luck of the draw wasnt on your side kuro
nothing could be done in that situation
i believe you will turn it around this uh, round
or we could just demote you to rookie status and have you go play at the kids table
j/k

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Re: Round 3 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15284.msg195872#msg195872
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2010, 05:43:26 pm »
Fractal devourer it is then(?)
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5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5up 5up 5uq 5ur 5ut 5ut 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 622 622 622 622Changes are -1 Nightfall, +1 Black Dragon.

I totally forgot about PA :-\
It's because I can't remember seeing anyone using it in any war match, but it's better to be prepared than surprised, thanks for the feedback!

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Re: Round 3 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15284.msg195913#msg195913
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2010, 06:53:08 pm »
i suspect they will be expecting fractal deck but it ALWAYS have a chance barring any unlucky draws
just be wary of plague
this is what i've come up with (anti-Death) in case we go with my suggestion on what to salvage from R2 :-

Code: [Select]
5la 5la 5lc 5lc 5lc 5lc 5lc 5li 5li 5uk 5uk 5ul 5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5uo 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606bonewall shut it down good but if they're expecting fractal, they might forego it altogether
arsenic is a problem, i wanted to add steals but i feel like 2 dusk mantle is absolute necessary in this deck
and since you'll be facing a general, i think they might go the rush route
either mono death with Flesh Recluse or Fractal-Recluse since it is the best death creature upped
leaning more towards mono death rush since we're heavy on denial theme (including fractal)
good thing i have 2 miracles already. i might just use this deck

and oh yeah... STILL NO ENTHROPY
sorry for all the editing but also i got an auburn nymph
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Re: Round 3 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15284.msg195999#msg195999
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2010, 08:50:02 pm »
just made this deck in the trainer. its a little short on quanta in the early turns but once it gets goin its really hard to beat.
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4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vl 4vl 500 500 500 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5v8 5v8 5v8 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606
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Re: Round 3 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15284.msg196026#msg196026
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2010, 09:34:45 pm »
tbh i'm really not liking our heavy quanta deck (fractal-dev) against earth
but go with your gut feelings i guess
it serve us well last round

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Re: Round 3 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15284.msg196031#msg196031
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2010, 09:42:50 pm »
kobis i tested your deck with kuro and while it did win, im thinking of adding some steals for a little bit more control.
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