Deckbuilding

[suxerz]

How about PU dragons and purify for the light counter? I think it has a good chance to beat earth and time stall.
Something like this maybe?

by suxerz

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4vj 4vj 5ia 5ia 5ul 5ul 5ur 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 8pu

[TheonlyrealBeef]

How about PU dragons and purify for the light counter? I think it has a good chance to beat earth and time stall.
Something like this maybe?

by TheonlyrealBeef

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4vj 4vj 5ia 5ia 5ul 5ul 5ur 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 8pu

Not only does it use more PUs than we have (though I suppose we could salvage one), it also has a lot of spare Darkness quanta (upgrading Dragons and Stiletto could help, but still needs moar Darkness cards) and doesn't utilize my upgrade advantage :p

[suxerz]

Yeah, we only have 5 PUs. I'm just suggesting a deck concept. 

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Yeah, we only have 5 PUs. I'm just suggesting a deck concept. 

Well with 2 Dragons and 5 PUs you'd need way too much luck to get enough damage :p

[Onizuka]

My gut tells me to play our miracle stall against UW.

Even though we essentially know they'll have either Nova/SN with them against me.

My gut no like new teams D:

Also devquake, but my gut is usually bad about these things.

[mrpaper]

We gotta start building decks with whatever is left.. we didn't use the lycan so I think now would be a good time to get em out!
here is an idea of how it could look..

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4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vn 4vn 500 5uk 5uk 5uk 5up 5up 5up 5up 5us 5us 5us 5us 606 606 606 606 606 606 606modified to remove the 2 pillars

[Onizuka]

No amethyst pillar.

Using drain life there means we can't use the stall. The only real team we could use lycans against is life. The rest pose too much CC.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Vault

Darkness

Obsidian Pillar 31 Black Dragon 7 Devourer 17 Dusk Mantle 8 Steal 10 Nightfall 2 Drain Life 6 Minor Vampire 6 Liquid Shadow 3 Gargoyle 11 Voodoo Doll 6 Nightmare 0 Cloak 4 Black Nymph 3 Dark Pendulum 90 Vampire Stiletto 8 Darkness Mark 2

Aether

Lightning 2 Parallel Universe 5 Dimensional Shield 0 Quintessence 0 Fractal 0

Air

Flying Weapon 4 Shockwave 2 Wings 4 Owl's Eye 5

Death

Arsenic 2

Earth

Graboids 6 Earthquakes 10

Entropy

Lycanthrope 6 Nova 11 Antimatter 1 Purple Nymph 1 Discord 3

Gravity

Momentum 2 Grvaity Pull 2 Acceleration 6

Life

Adrenaline 6

Light

Light Pillar 2 Solar Shield 2 Blessing 5 Reflective Shield 1 Miracle 4 Crusader 4 Sanctuary 6 Light Pendulum 2

Time

Time Factory 1 Reverse Time 2 Sundial 4 Ghost of the Past 1 Time Pendulum 2

Water

Freeze 1 Purify 2

Salvage
I hate 24 card Discard :o
"Little" overview to help me in deckbuilding.

Edit, deckbuilding done, untested decks that likely need tweaking, problem is the lack of Darkness damage cards we have

TheonlyrealBeef: +2 Rage Potion, +4 Graboid;
Wizardcat: +2 Graboid +4 Rewinds;
Mithcairion: +1 Reverse Time, +1 Lightning, +1 Gargoyle, +1 Steal, +1 Vampire Stiletto, +3 Liquid Shadow, discard rest;
Onizuka: +1 Nightfall, +5 Fractal, discard rest;
suxerz: +5 Black Dragon, +1 Vampire Stiletto, +1 Dimensional Shield, discard rest;
Jaymanfu: +2 Rage Potion, +4 Sanctuary;
Malignant: +5 Reverse Time, +1 Steal, discard rest;
mrpaper: +5 Dimensional Shield, +1 Parallel Universe.

Conversion:
1 Time Factory, 1 Ghost of the Past, 2 Time Pendulums, 4 Sanctuaries, 4 Earthquakes, 4 Rage Potions.
to:
16 Dark Pendulums.

[suxerz]

Erm.. Mith and Oni have the same deck?

Looking at the deck and taking account the above salvage/discard/convert, we are in short supply of:
1 x Obsidian Pillar
4 x Devourer

Also, about the "vault" table - is this supposed to be before or after salvage/discard/convert?

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Erm.. Mith and Oni have the same deck?

Looking at the deck and taking account the above salvage/discard/convert, we are in short supply of:
1 x Obsidian Pillar
4 x Devourer

Also, about the "vault" table - is this supposed to be before or after salvage/discard/convert?

After everything is discarded, so we can then "resalvage" them. 1 Obsidian Pillar isn't a problem, but 4x Devourer? Guess we'll have to replace 4 Devourers with Obsidian Pillars and Convert to 5 Pillars and 7 Pendulums instead. Same deck is intentional, if it's a Darkness deck with Rewinds that works, why not use 2 if you want to use Rewinds?
Edit: replaced my deck with Vader to solve all those problems.

[suxerz]

Taking account the salvage/discard/convert (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25701.msg350506#msg350506) and minus all the cards for the decks, these are the cards that left in our vault:

	Parallel Universe	6		Graboid	2
	Dimensional Shield	6		Earthquake	2
	Owl's Eye	2		Lycanthrope	6
	Obsidian Pillar	3		Antimatter	1
	Black Dragon	1		Discord	3
	Dusk Mantle	1		Purple Nymph	1
	Minor Vampire	3		Momentum	2
	Liquid Shadow	3		Gravity Pull	2
	Voodoo Doll	6		Acceleration	6
	Cloak	4		Adrenaline	6
	Dark Pendulum	49		Light Pillar	1
	Black Nymph	2		Solar Shield	2
	Darkness Mark	2		Freeze	1
	Arsenic	2		Purify	2
	Sundial	4

[suxerz]

Round 6

This is roughly what I had in mind for our salvage/discard/convert:

Discard
Goodbye vaders... We lost everything in this deck and we need to discard extra 20 from our current vault (excluding salvage this round). For the other decks, I think we need to save some dragons, gargoyles, few stilts and probably few steals too. Not sure about devourer; if we discard all devourers from the losing decks, we are left with only 6 of them.

About the extra 20 discard, I believe we can definitely discard these:
1      Light Pillar
2      Solar Shield

So, we need to figure out the rest of 17 cards. We can discard the air and entropy cards (except nova), but I rather we don't do that because by doing that, we will be fielding more heavy darkness decks which I think should be avoided at this point. I prefer to keep the lycans, discord and wings.

Also, since it stated that "the cards you discard must come from the deck first and then from the vault of cards you didn't use", the 16 cards MUST be from the above (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23480.msg353081#msg353081) table.


Salvage
We could salvage some nova and graboids here to keep another nova graboid deck and to safely discard those in Oni's deck. Malig's salvage can be used for conversion.