Deckbuilding

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Salvage
TheonlyrealBeef: 12 Air Pendulum
Wizardcat: 6 Graboid
Onizuka: 6 Earthquake
mrpaper: 5 Lightnings; 1 Holy Light
jaymanfu: 6 Nova

Discard
Mithcairion: 6 Obsidian Pillar; 6 Dark Pendulum
suxerz: 4 Nova; 4 Earthquake; 2 Lightnings; 1 Arsenic; 1 Devourer
Malignant: 6 Obsidian Pillar; 6 Dark Pendulum

Conversion:
12 Air Pendulum; 6 Graboids; 3 Lightning; 1 Holy Light; 2 Earthquakes
to
21 Obsidian Pillars; 3 Dark Pendulums

[TheonlyrealBeef]

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[Onizuka]

I'm throwing my official support of the lockbow we used 2nd round against air.

I tested 10 games against each of the following decks

9-1  against flying accel titans (Mormegil 2nd round)
9-1  against Azure Dragons+UG (Omegareaper first round)
9-1 against heavy CC air/water deck (Jippy first round)
10-0 unupped first round Owl Eyes+Bone Wall Noobiecakes 1st round
1-9 against Air’s grabbow (Amilir round 2)
10-0 against PU azure dragons (Noobiecakes 2nd round)
10-0 against FQ (Hisar 2nd round)

I didn't test against their wings decks, as 1) Our strongest creatures are wings-proof 2) Steal is a threat and 3) Easy to deny wing chain.
I haven't tested against their giant FFQ decks, but those shouldn't be that much of a problem.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

We've already denied them with Devourers... twice though. No idea if it would work, but it's a viable option.

[mrpaper]

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That's a deck I've tried with Revoltion and it has worked quite well against what we will likely see from fire stall/sanct or rushes (phonix or golem) they have like 7 decks of those.  Only other possibilities are they 1 eq deck and 1 poison deck.. but as strong as they are, it's very predictable what they will play.   Problem being, how do you counter stall and rushes with one deck... well that's the deck!

For  stall deck: keep steal for farenheit to avoid massive damage, keep dragons in hand till the last turn, don't even bother about the devs (unless no sanct)/nymph and ls, they are dead cards.  We build quanta so much fatser then fire since they need to spread for sanct.. the tricky part is we will do 0 damage till the very last turn when we turn em dead. 

For rushes deck: drain life become a tool to kill those golems so they arent much of an issue anymore.  The ls and nymph becomes crucial to get rid of phoenixes which might still be a bit hard.  Be sure to use the shield as soon as you get it and use the drain life on phoenix if the pressure on the life bar becomes too tight! 

[Onizuka]

Decks not being tested against: Wavedash 2nd round (No upped druid=bad), Promworm 2nd round (likeliness of RT against us when they only fuel it off the mark=0)
1st round Isei (Mitosis minor phoenix doesn't work unupped ) 1st round Wizelsnarf (No upped druid)

Testing against Life's decks :

2nd round PlayerOa deck (Life Grabbow vs Scrambled Toadfish ) 10-0

Discard order Nightmare=RT. Your judgement is crucial here. Early on, if you have enough RTs, then discarding 1 won't hurt. Later on, if you've got him locked down well, then nightmare (although the latter should never happen).

General strategy: Lockdown, then damage. GoTP+Nightmare>RT in all situations.

Most annoying cards: Fog Shield, druidic staff, heal (In that order).

2nd round Isei deck (Wings+FQ/hope vs Scrambled Shriekers) 5-5

Discard order- Absolutely nothing. EVERYTHING is essential, you locking their draw is the deciding factor (and how many wings they have in their starting hand+early draws)

Killer cards- Wings, FQ,Druidic staff,Heal (Last 2 are only annoying, can't win if they have 1 and enough 2s)

General strategy- GET THAT DRAWLOCK, and pray there's no wings in his opening hands+draws

2nd round Wizelsnarf deck (Devtosis vs Devtal+Lightning control) 9-1

Discard order- RT=Nightmare Depends on the situation as them having dragons changes this slightly, as RTing dragons won't keep them off the field.

General strategy- RT Mitosized creatures, RT dragons, Nightmare to keep draw lock, keep dragons from coming back onto the field

Round 2 kitty45 deck (Quintagon vs Entropy/deaths stall) 2-8

Discard order RT only, nightmare is your only card to control their deck

General strategy: RT any unquinted dragons, Nightmare your GoTP, not much you can do. Them giving us a chance to salvage more DS/Quints or giving us a direct counter against their own deck is unlikely. Can't win.

Round 2 edunavas deck (Poison vs Blessed Dune Scorp) 6-4

Discard order- RT>Nightmare

General strategy- RT scorps to stop poison/Dragons to reduce damage, RT to prevent GoTP from dying (not over reducing damage though) Nightmare GotP. Same old same odl

Annoying cards: Thorn Carapace, Druidic staff, heal

First round promwarm (Fractal scorps vs devtal) 8-2

He got two fractal scorps before I could draw a nightmare...otherwise I locked down his hand with a large amount of GotP

General strategy- RT scorps, nightmare early and frequent to keep fractal power low+lower their ability to draw more Dimension shields. Dimension shields were never a problem, they never stopped me for too long

Discard- RT>Nightmare

Round 1 Falcon4415 deck Life/Fire duo vs Firestall 8-2

Discard RT>Nightmare (No enemy creatures)
General strategy- Lure out multiple Fire bolts hopefully with one-two GoTP, or else you risk losing all your creatures.

Round 1 edunavas deck Mitosis chargers/accel armagios vs Death's BH/Discord 10-0

RT>Mitosis. Nuff said.

Another gravity/life duo in kitty. Now I'm tired of GoTP D:

[suxerz]

Taking account the salvage/discard (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,24971.0.html) and minus all the cards for the decks, these are the cards that left in our vault (in case any deck changes need to be made):

Dark Pendulum	95	Cloak	4
Devourer	17	Discord	4
Steal	8	Miracle	4
Dusk Mantle	7	Fractal	3
Gargoyle	7	Liquid Shadow	3
Earthquake	6	Black Nymph	3
Minor Vampire	6	Darkness Mark	2
Voodoo Doll	6	Purple Nymph	2
Vampire Stiletto	6	Momentum	2
Lycanthrope	6	Gravity Pull	2
Antimatter	6	Solar Shield	2
Acceleration	6	Graboid	1
Sanctuary	6	Flying Weapon	1
Parallel Universe	5	Arsenic	1
Quintessence	5	Light Pillar	1
Owl's Eye	5	Nightfall	4

If this kinda useless, let me know if I should stop doing this...

[mrpaper]

suxers, I like seeing this, it will help us to choose what cards to let go if we lose and also in later rounds, we will have less and less possibilities so we will need to take a look at all cards!

[Onizuka]

I was thinking about somehow modding that aether stall torb posted into something we could use against Entropy. I think it has some sort of chance, but I'll see tomorrow when I test it.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

I was thinking about somehow modding that aether stall torb posted into something we could use against Entropy. I think it has some sort of chance, but I'll see tomorrow when I test it.

I was thinking more of a Liquid Antimatter bow for next time (say wut?) since they'll never see it coming. Tons of control, to deal with all those creatures they keep bringing, and the bow part to deal with Discord.

[Onizuka]

I was thinking about somehow modding that aether stall torb posted into something we could use against Entropy. I think it has some sort of chance, but I'll see tomorrow when I test it.

I was thinking more of a Liquid Antimatter bow for next time (say wut?) since they'll never see it coming. Tons of control, to deal with all those creatures they keep bringing, and the bow part to deal with Discord.

I'll test everything and anything to beat Entropy, and whichever one works better we can go with that. I can't think of an idea right now, since I have sooo much work to do that I put off

[TheonlyrealBeef]

I was thinking about somehow modding that aether stall torb posted into something we could use against Entropy. I think it has some sort of chance, but I'll see tomorrow when I test it.

I was thinking more of a Liquid Antimatter bow for next time (say wut?) since they'll never see it coming. Tons of control, to deal with all those creatures they keep bringing, and the bow part to deal with Discord.

I'll test everything and anything to beat Entropy, and whichever one works better we can go with that. I can't think of an idea right now, since I have sooo much work to do that I put off

It's still just an idea and needs lots of tweaking and testing, here's a rough sketch:

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Round 1 deck from Entropy: 10-0, Purple Dragons are tasty targets.
Round 2 deck from Entropy: 5-5, Immolation really hurts this deck.
Round 3 deck from Entropy: 6-4, Early Black Hole in 3 out of 4 losses. Other was just bad draws. Entropy is unlikely to use Black Hole in an unupgraded variant though