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Re: Deck Ideas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13996.msg199619#msg199619
« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2010, 08:23:55 pm »
since our grab bow isnt doing too well this round, i decided to modify it. feedback would help.
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Re: Deck Ideas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13996.msg199680#msg199680
« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2010, 09:46:29 pm »
since our grab bow isnt doing too well this round, i decided to modify it. feedback would help.
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Where do you intend to get all the darkness quanta from needed for 5 Liquid Shadow and 6 Gargoyles to start with? there's only 3 pends and 2 pillars....

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Re: Deck Ideas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13996.msg199682#msg199682
« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2010, 09:48:20 pm »
novas help some and im still tweaking it. i defintly need more pillars
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Re: Deck Ideas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13996.msg199727#msg199727
« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2010, 10:38:25 pm »
Anyway I've come to one conclusion: we've gotta stop spamming rainbow graboids, over 50% of what we've faced were stalls, built specifically to counter that deck, having enough cards to build 3 of those things it's no surprise (untill now that is, since we can discard most of it). A lot of these decks did not even have any permanent control at all!

I kind of saw it coming, but what's done is done, but I suggest we think about using decks we haven't used as often as possible.
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Deck that works on heavy creatures, but only on heavy (on average the creature's: hp x attack > 16) creatures:
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Re: Deck Ideas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13996.msg199736#msg199736
« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2010, 10:43:49 pm »
we could also get more fractals and make another fract devourer deck.
i also posted a fast monodark in the monodark section if anybody wants to test it
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Re: Deck Ideas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13996.msg199741#msg199741
« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2010, 10:47:50 pm »
we could also get more fractals and make another fract devourer deck.
i also posted a fast monodark in the monodark section if anybody wants to test it
More equal decks = bad.
In best case we each have a different kind of deck we use, all these decks being good and diverse, so that they can never know which one we'll use.

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Re: Deck Ideas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13996.msg200273#msg200273
« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2010, 03:44:35 pm »
Anyway I've come to one conclusion: we've gotta stop spamming rainbow graboids, over 50% of what we've faced were stalls, built specifically to counter that deck, having enough cards to build 3 of those things it's no surprise (untill now that is, since we can discard most of it). A lot of these decks did not even have any permanent control at all!
i have to disagree
just because they know its coming doesnt mean they can fully prepare for it
we only actually faced 1 stall vs rainbow grabs ((Light) Ryan666 2 - (Darkness) 3D House of Beef 0)
i know its lame to blame it on luck but i'll say it, its pure luck that they uses stall knowing we might go any route of quanta denial but instead chosen to use rainbow grabs
even then, had it not been for topdecking those miracles in time, we could've won instead

i DO agree that we need to be using a lot more varied approaches so that they will have to think twice thrice when facing us (hence why i go with  :darkness :air this round)

IF i were on any other team, based on past performances, i'd say Team Darkness succeed either by quanta denial ( :darkness :earth:darkness :entropy:darkness :aether) or fast rush via rainbow grabs
and quanta denial success varied whereas rainbow grabs performance is 100%
so its not a surprise that Team Light went for stall tactic if they had the same idea because more than likely we'll be using something that has been proven successful even though the risk of facing quanta denial is huge
its like they banked on 1/4 to score and scored, they did

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Re: Deck Ideas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13996.msg200805#msg200805
« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2010, 04:05:34 am »
Posted this as part of my msg in the strategy section, but this is where it belongs. And so I repeat:

The idea is simple: Use reverse time on any critters that get played while you lay down your devourers, using nightmare to further stall and prevent your opponent from drawing extra pillars. Wield Eternity when possible, and by the time he develops an entrance strategy, you'll be rolling in Darkness and sending out the Dragons. Well, that's the idea anyway. I think this would be particularly useful against  :entropy Entropy's AM.
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Alternately, trade half the pends for pillars, and put some more damage in there instead of the devourers.

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Re: Deck Ideas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13996.msg200843#msg200843
« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2010, 05:18:23 am »
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