Nightmare | Nightmare

[cebra]

Or this way. That would be awesome. You got hand control( ) and a triggered effect, a growing creature or another effect.

[GRANLEE]

I´ve just got an idea.
There are two new cards, that target your opponents hand. Dune Scorpion, as it forces your opponent to discard, and now this, that fills your opponents hand with a creature YOU choose.
Now imagine, there would be a creature that triggers it´s effect by the time you discard it!
That would be an crazy combo!

how about a card (ex):

0/1 when your opponent discard a card this take +1/+1   ??

thats a good idea but do you mean the creature you used this card on will be getting the buff only

[jmizzle7]

I´ve just got an idea.
There are two new cards, that target your opponents hand. Dune Scorpion, as it forces your opponent to discard, and now this, that fills your opponents hand with a creature YOU choose.
Now imagine, there would be a creature that triggers it´s effect by the time you discard it!
That would be an crazy combo!

how about a card (ex):

0/1 when your opponent discard a card this take +1/+1   ??

thats a good idea but do you mean the creature you used this card on will be getting the buff only

He is talking about a creature with that ability, not a buff.

[GRANLEE]

I´ve just got an idea.
There are two new cards, that target your opponents hand. Dune Scorpion, as it forces your opponent to discard, and now this, that fills your opponents hand with a creature YOU choose.
Now imagine, there would be a creature that triggers it´s effect by the time you discard it!
That would be an crazy combo!

how about a card (ex):

0/1 when your opponent discard a card this take +1/+1   ??

thats a good idea but do you mean the creature you used this card on will be getting the buff only

He is talking about a creature with that ability, not a buff.

my bad,but i think that it should be able to do that everytime they discard one of those cards the target creature should get a buff

[Retribution]

I really dislike this card and dune scorpion. In my opinion, for elements, the "safe zone" was your hand. It's where you would keep things that you didn't want to put in danger. But now, with all these messing up your opponent's hand, I think that elements is just turning into the other card games...

[jmizzle7]

Elements is not turning into other card games. It is becoming more balanced. The PvP metagame is super small right now, but with cards like this it will grow tremendously.

[Retribution]

Elements is not turning into other card games. It is becoming more balanced. The PvP metagame is super small right now, but with cards like this it will grow tremendously.

I don't like this idea of balance, 'tis all.

[GRANLEE]

I really dislike this card and dune scorpion. In my opinion, for elements, the "safe zone" was your hand. It's where you would keep things that you didn't want to put in danger. But now, with all these messing up your opponent's hand, I think that elements is just turning into the other card games...

nightmare dosent really mess up your hand all you need to do is discard one card and youll be getting cards like normal,nightmare destroys decks that uses stuff like electrum hourglass and sundials.

[jmdt]

I see this card as the fractal nerf everyone wanted.  Hard to use fractal with a hand full of junk.

[kev]

Well it has a multitude of uses but it still seems pretty situational.  You could...

• give AI sparks (better than ball lightning btw) if you're playing a death deck
• clog an FG's hand so he draws one rather than two
• use it as a relatively complex aflatoxin replacement
• use it as an extremely complex aflatoxin replacement with flood
• use it for anti-fractal
• use it to stop a fire lance deck
• give opponent strong creatures if you have a purple nymph

It's probably no good to...

• combine with Dune scorpion.  Force opponent's hand full of dragons and then force him to discard them?  Why?  It'd be better for him to discard his one useful card, or to be unable to draw useful cards.
• prevent opponent from using an hourglass.  If opponent draws a card (2 turns after you use Nightmare), he can then play that card and use his hourglass as usual.

It's possibly good to...

• give AI more of one weak but expensive creature to play, if he's programmed to play them before more powerful creatures.  (ie keep giving Dark Matter otys if he'll play them before chargers and nymphs, or giving Miracle leaf dragons so he uses all his quanta and can't afford dragons or miracles)
• give AI daggers if he'll use them to unclog his hand, overwriting his rare weapon.

I dunno.  I'm stretching a bit there.

[teffy]

I fear the combo Dune Scorpion + Blessing + Nightmare in a rainbow deck or a trio deck.
And i fear the stupid AI, which will play all the cards you give them.
And I think, this card should fill the opponent´s cards up to 7 (and fractal, too)

[Dragoon1140]

I'm pretty sure this hasn't been mentioned yet in the thread, but when this card is played your opponent doesn't draw a card next turn.