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Re: Cloak https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17613.msg226184#msg226184
« Reply #72 on: December 16, 2010, 11:23:44 pm »
Has anyone tested to see if RoF removed a Protected cloak?
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Re: Cloak https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17613.msg226234#msg226234
« Reply #73 on: December 17, 2010, 12:46:55 am »
Alternate art (possibly a foil?):


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Re: Cloak https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17613.msg226271#msg226271
« Reply #74 on: December 17, 2010, 01:57:26 am »
On the other hand, Cloak nicely counters at least two cards - EQ and Poseidon :P
It also let's growth creatures get out of otyugh-omnomnom range.
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Re: Cloak https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17613.msg226310#msg226310
« Reply #75 on: December 17, 2010, 03:18:29 am »
Has anyone tested to see if RoF removed a Protected cloak?
Yep.

Even Retrovirus can Plague it away.

On the other hand, Cloak nicely counters at least two cards - EQ and Poseidon :P
Not really. EarthQuake and Quicksand are both cheaper and will hit before you get to use your cloak. Try playing Seism and ask what he thinks of Cloak.

It also let's growth creatures get out of otyugh-omnomnom range.
But you could have instead used a Blessing or Chaos Power and been further ahead or just used Lightning, freeze or shockwave and killed/injured the Oty. And if your opponent isn't using CC himself those spells can be used to slow rush. Where cloak does nothing.

What does Cloak do to help you stop RoL/Hope, or any Rush deck?
What does Cloak do to help you against any AI?

Since Cloaks effect is not Yang and not infinite in term, it is ineffective. Between 2 identical Archetypes, assumedly it would be a fair division of games 50/50. Adding cloak to one does not increase its game winning potential against the other because the addition of the cloak reduces its offensive potential. The more I look at this card, the less I like it.

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Re: Cloak https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17613.msg226333#msg226333
« Reply #76 on: December 17, 2010, 04:20:47 am »
Alternate art (possibly a foil?):


I've said it a million times in chat and I'll say it again: Batman Ash Eater.

Anyway, yes, great art.  When Zanz first announced Cloak I wanted to see if that was the art posted, and I was a little sad it wasn't.  Regardless, this card is still a great (and much wanted) addition to the game.
Art is of course awesome, but it looks way too much like a creature. I'd like if all creature art to look like creatures, and all spell art to look like spells, otherwise it's going to be really confusing to newbies.

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Re: Cloak https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17613.msg226342#msg226342
« Reply #77 on: December 17, 2010, 04:47:25 am »
^^ This.  I had to look really hard at that picture in order to figure out WTF it had to do with cloaks at all.
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Re: Cloak https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17613.msg226346#msg226346
« Reply #78 on: December 17, 2010, 04:53:49 am »
^^ This.  I had to look really hard at that picture in order to figure out WTF it had to do with cloaks at all.
Hehe.  Isn't that the point.  ;)

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Re: Cloak https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17613.msg226350#msg226350
« Reply #79 on: December 17, 2010, 05:34:14 am »
About the art:

vrt, please accept my apologies, the cloak art did look great, as usual; but it did look a lot like a creature and I knew I was going to get lots of complaints about it. So I used your art and added a few effects, I ended up adding lots of stuff to the original art... if you look at the card there is still the brimstone eater in the middle- disappearing.

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Re: Cloak https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17613.msg226504#msg226504
« Reply #80 on: December 17, 2010, 12:27:20 pm »
About the art:

vrt, please accept my apologies, the cloak art did look great, as usual; but it did look a lot like a creature and I knew I was going to get lots of complaints about it. So I used your art and added a few effects, I ended up adding lots of stuff to the original art... if you look at the card there is still the brimstone eater in the middle- disappearing.
Ah.. I thought it was some sort of an island covered with black mist/fog. Not to say it's bad; the art is great - it's hard to see because it is too small. Would love if there is some sort of archive stored somewhere so that we can see the full size art for all cards.

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Re: Cloak https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17613.msg226529#msg226529
« Reply #81 on: December 17, 2010, 01:28:10 pm »
Ehm, already think i found a bug.
My opponent had a boneyard, then played cloak. One of my creatures died, and there was suddenly a skeleton and Cloak on the same time.

Ill try to take a screenshot if it happens again

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Re: Cloak https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17613.msg226896#msg226896
« Reply #82 on: December 17, 2010, 11:55:46 pm »
Ehm, already think i found a bug.
My opponent had a boneyard, then played cloak. One of my creatures died, and there was suddenly a skeleton and Cloak on the same time.

Ill try to take a screenshot if it happens again
Yup, I had that happen too. AI cloaked, my infected grey nymph died, and the boneyard generated a skeleton that was visible (and was promptly afla'd by another grey nymph)

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Re: Cloak https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17613.msg226985#msg226985
« Reply #83 on: December 18, 2010, 01:52:34 am »
Lol, people who don't check in the forums are going to think a desync just happened.

Anyways, Cloak is kinda like purify. Destroys some of the time, and then fails the other times.

 

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