LS gargoyles!

[TIO]

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It's a simple deck, which abuses gargoyle's stone form and devourers' burrow, while using LS on STG's 5|23 stats for a nice life drain and nightfall for bonus 1|1 to devourers and gargoyles.  Vampire stiletto is fairly obvious:  extra drain.  I have done limited testing, currently working on testing.  No upgrades for now.  I do have a standard adrenaline vamp AI3 farmer, so I can gather money quickly.  Suggestions?
EDIT:  Added four pillars, three steals, and three cloaks to deck, hopefully this makes it better.
EDIT2:  Removed cloaks and mantles. 

[omegareaper7]

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It's a simple deck, which abuses gargoyle's stone form and devourers' burrow, while using LS on STG's 5|23 stats for a nice life drain and nightfall for bonus 1|1 to devourers and gargoyles.  dusk mantle and vampire stiletto are fairly obvious:  less hit, more drain.  I have done limited testing, currently working on testing.  No upgrades for now.  I do have a standard adrenaline vamp AI3 farmer, so I can gather money quickly.  Suggestions?
EDIT:  Added four pillars, three steals, and three cloaks to deck, hopefully this makes it better.

Needs more dark quanta. Aside from the devourers, you have only 10 pillars and everything else costs 3 or more aside from the stiletto.

[Drake_XIV]

I'd drop a Liquid Shadow and Nightfall.  Maybe all the Cloaks, but that's just me.

[TIO]

I have NEVER had quanta problems with this deck, and I use as a grinder.  No, this does not have quanta problems.  Cloaks are useful so I can get gargoyles stone-formed against lockdown decks.  Liquid Shadow and night fall are insanely important, why would I drop them?

[omegareaper7]

I have NEVER had quanta problems with this deck, and I use as a grinder.  No, this does not have quanta problems.  Cloaks are useful so I can get gargoyles stone-formed against lockdown decks.  Liquid Shadow and night fall are insanely important, why would I drop them?

As much as i dislike using the QI for stuff, this is an instance where i will. For the deck its above 7, and no quanta problems? That is hard to believe.

Small edit. Went ahead and tested it. It does indeed have quanta problems like i thought. Any denial early on the pillars or devourers pretty much means 20 turn games. However it does work, even if it is extremely slow. Out of 3 games, fastest was 13 turns. Would not recommend this for grinding.

[Damage]

TIO,your all decks ,s fat! FAT! FATT!!  8) 30 cards would be cool.

[TIO]

I have NEVER had quanta problems with this deck, and I use as a grinder.  No, this does not have quanta problems.  Cloaks are useful so I can get gargoyles stone-formed against lockdown decks.  Liquid Shadow and night fall are insanely important, why would I drop them?

As much as i dislike using the QI for stuff, this is an instance where i will. For the deck its above 7, and no quanta problems? That is hard to believe.

Small edit. Went ahead and tested it. It does indeed have quanta problems like i thought. Any denial early on the pillars or devourers pretty much means 20 turn games. However it does work, even if it is extremely slow. Out of 3 games, fastest was 13 turns. Would not recommend this for grinding.

I usually get turn 2 devourers out, and that slows opponents down a lot.  Also 3 games=NO DATA.  It has like 95% win rate against ai3, which is what it's intended for.  Occasional EM's happen every now and then, as well.

TIO,your all decks ,s fat! FAT! FATT!!  8) 30 cards would be cool.

40 cards for anti-deckout is fat?  Dafuq?

[omegareaper7]

Believe it or not, 3 games is enough to get a general feel for a deck.

[Absol]

Oh, a thing about anti deckout. While adding more cards will prorect you from them, it will give you more bad draw, and you'll lose more often on average. Besides, fully dedicated deckout will usually be 60 cards anyway (+ photon bouncing). Might as well give up on it.
If you want anti deckout against regular deck, however, 31 or 32 card is enough.

[Damage]

I have NEVER had quanta problems with this deck, and I use as a grinder.  No, this does not have quanta problems.  Cloaks are useful so I can get gargoyles stone-formed against lockdown decks.  Liquid Shadow and night fall are insanely important, why would I drop them?

As much as i dislike using the QI for stuff, this is an instance where i will. For the deck its above 7, and no quanta problems? That is hard to believe.

Small edit. Went ahead and tested it. It does indeed have quanta problems like i thought. Any denial early on the pillars or devourers pretty much means 20 turn games. However it does work, even if it is extremely slow. Out of 3 games, fastest was 13 turns. Would not recommend this for grinding.

I usually get turn 2 devourers out, and that slows opponents down a lot.  Also 3 games=NO DATA.  It has like 95% win rate against ai3, which is what it's intended for.  Occasional EM's happen every now and then, as well.

TIO,your all decks ,s fat! FAT! FATT!!  8) 30 cards would be cool.

40 cards for anti-deckout is fat?  Dafuq?

 Yes it is.40 cards are not reliable.

[TIO]

@omega- Yes, that is true, but 3 games is nill statistically.  It is entirely possible that you got 3 bad hands, which would ruin your argument.
@Absol- This isn't fully dedicated.  Only somewhat, and the extra few cards have saved me a few times, and all I need for a good hand is a few pillars, devourers, a gargoyle or two with the same number of LS, and maybe a steal or cloak in there as well, which I usually get.
@Damage- GTFO, I have plenty experience with 40 card decks, and as long as they are constructed decently, they are plenty usable.  Just because a deck has more than 30 cards, does NOT mean it is "not reliable."

[TheFallenHero94]

30 cards will get you better first hands.

Secondly dont be tripping on omega. He knows what he is talking about.