It's better than it looks.

[Skotadi Phobos]

Hrmm, I suppose I can see your point there, although if you want it for that earlier damage, why not switch out one dragon for one more Gargoyle? Six and two seems to me like it would leave a lot of times where you don't draw the gargoyle till later, especially in a 40 card deck.

I have 3 gargoyles, four seems a bit much

[Skotadi Phobos]

Try to cut it down to 30 cards i reckon, 40 card decks are ugly if you ask me (no offense)

Boo!
I happen to like 40 card decks 

Anyways, I'd probably replace a devourer for a steal- I don't like devourers, and extra PC is always nice. Admittedly, it does look like you're cramming too much stuff in. Try eliminating a few combos or features- like the devourers, or either the vamps/drain lifes. Definitely remove some creatures if you are going to slim it down, but it should still work fine as it is.

Thats a good idea, I'm going to try that. Thanks

[joshiex29]

40 cards is a good amount when playing against half bloods (or FG if you are stong) because 30 cards if you dont die you will deck out 40 cards make that chance of decking out less so i think 40 is better

[UnderneathTheLens]

With 1 weapon. 1 Eclipse, and 1 Dusk in a 40 card deck, I don't think you'll be seeing those really often. You should definitely have more, especially since those three are really good.

[Skotadi Phobos]

With 1 weapon. 1 Eclipse, and 1 Dusk in a 40 card deck, I don't think you'll be seeing those really often. You should definitely have more, especially since those three are really good.

*sighs*, if only I had more weapons, but one of each is usually enough for me to win.

[omegareaper7]

A couple more pillars seem needed, 12 pillars/pendulums just doesn't seem like enough with 40 cards, even with devourers.

[bogtro]

***TRIALS RESPONSE***

Although you seem to be dead-set on keeping this at 40 cards, decks should always be 30 cards unless you have a very good reason not to. Since this deck is not a stall, has no hourglasses, and is not a denial deck, I don't see any reason why the deck needs to be so large. It also does not produce enough quanta, which is unsurprising for such a large deck.

There are cards here that seem distinctly out of place. To start with, the Liquid Shadows seem to have no good targets other than the dragons. Even if you manage to draw an LS and play it on a dragon, the 10 healing per turn will not have any significant effect on the outcome of the match. The Gargoyles also seem rather out of place. With no earth quanta, they are simply midrange attackers that are unnecessary in such a large deck. Minor Vampires are also a strange choice - they don't provide enough healing to be at all useful.

I would suggest simply removing the Minor Vampires, removing the Liquid Shadows, and removing the Gargoyles. This will slim the deck down to 32 cards, which will significantly help the deck. It will still leave enough offense, improve the quanta balance, and speed up the deck significantly.

by bogtro

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7t4 7t4 7t4 7t4 5uk 5uk 5ul 5ul 5ul 5ul 5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5up 5up 5us 5us 5us 606 606 606 606 606 606 7ta 7tb 8pt

This has a Quantum Index (http://elements.alanbeam.net/qi.php?deckCode=7t4+7t4+7t4+7t4+5uk+5uk+5ul+5ul+5ul+5ul+5ul+5ul+5um+5um+5um+5um+5um+5um+5uo+5up+5up+5us+5us+5us+606+606+606+606+606+606+7ta+7tb+8pt&showImage=1) of 5.1, which is very close to the "optimal" 5. This means that you are less likely to not have enough quanta to play your cards or vice versa.

[Skotadi Phobos]

***TRIALS RESPONSE***

Although you seem to be dead-set on keeping this at 40 cards, decks should always be 30 cards unless you have a very good reason not to. Since this deck is not a stall, has no hourglasses, and is not a denial deck, I don't see any reason why the deck needs to be so large. It also does not produce enough quanta, which is unsurprising for such a large deck.

There are cards here that seem distinctly out of place. To start with, the Liquid Shadows seem to have no good targets other than the dragons. Even if you manage to draw an LS and play it on a dragon, the 10 healing per turn will not have any significant effect on the outcome of the match. The Gargoyles also seem rather out of place. With no earth quanta, they are simply midrange attackers that are unnecessary in such a large deck. Minor Vampires are also a strange choice - they don't provide enough healing to be at all useful.

I would suggest simply removing the Minor Vampires, removing the Liquid Shadows, and removing the Gargoyles. This will slim the deck down to 32 cards, which will significantly help the deck. It will still leave enough offense, improve the quanta balance, and speed up the deck significantly.

First off, LS has saved me so many times, and ten extra health can be a very good edge against a lot of decks, and a good card to get EMs. The vampires are kind of useless but I have them in there until I can upgrade them. Gargoyles are good because when upgraded and matched with eclipse they are as good as a small dragon. And I would also like to know if you tried out the deck before you commented on it.

[bogtro]

Well,
a) Liquid Shadow does not give EMs as of the latest patch, and the health gain is typically negligible anyway.
b) Having cards in a deck as placeholders until you can upgrade them makes little to no sense. While Vampires and especially Gargoyles are powerful cards when upgraded, playing them unupgraded significantly lowers the power of this deck.
c) Yes I have, which served as the main reason for my comments. The deck is too large, making it very clunky, and reducing a lot of its possible power. Besides this, there are several cards in the deck which serve to only make the deck larger, which doesn't seem like a good approach to deckbuilding.

The main problem is that you are trying to use an upgraded deck unupgraded. There is a reason that cards are upgraded, and most decks won't really work at all unupped in this fashion. You are also trying to do too much in a single deck.

[Mathematistic]

How about an earth mark to burrow the devourers/add hp to gargoyles? (of course, all pends to pillars/towers)
The added hp on gargoyles synergises with liquid shadow very well.

[Skotadi Phobos]

How about an earth mark to burrow the devourers/add hp to gargoyles? (of course, all pends to pillars/towers)
The added hp on gargoyles synergises with liquid shadow very well.

I would do that but I don't see the use in playing LS on gargoyles, 5 extra health isn't very good.  I use gargoyles as a medium damage if I don't have any dragons in my hand, not for their ability.  And besides, LS is far more effective on dragons.

[Mathematistic]

How about an earth mark to burrow the devourers/add hp to gargoyles? (of course, all pends to pillars/towers)
The added hp on gargoyles synergises with liquid shadow very well.

I would do that but I don't see the use in playing LS on gargoyles, 5 extra health isn't very good.  I use gargoyles as a medium damage if I don't have any dragons in my hand, not for their ability.  And besides, LS is far more effective on dragons.

Well, gargoyles +20 health after stone form... good point on the LS stuff, though.