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Vampiric shadows https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32733.msg413494#msg413494
« on: October 21, 2011, 12:59:07 am »
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liquid shadow the dragons! :D

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Re: Vampiric shadows https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32733.msg413560#msg413560
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2011, 02:48:13 am »
Having 6 vampires, a vampire stilleto, and 3 liquid shadows is wholly unnecessary. Especially if you only have 3 cards to play the liquid shadows on. Add some PC and CC.

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Re: Vampiric shadows https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32733.msg413565#msg413565
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2011, 02:51:05 am »
Having 6 vampires, a vampire stilleto, and 3 liquid shadows is wholly unnecessary. Especially if you only have 3 cards to play the liquid shadows on. Add some PC and CC.
this deck is ment to heal itself.

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Re: Vampiric shadows https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32733.msg413570#msg413570
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2011, 02:58:46 am »
Having 6 vampires, a vampire stilleto, and 3 liquid shadows is wholly unnecessary. Especially if you only have 3 cards to play the liquid shadows on. Add some PC and CC.
this deck is ment to heal itself.
Either way, 3 liquid shadows for 3 black dragons is unnecessary. 6 vampires and a vampire stiletto is more than enough healing for you.

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Re: Vampiric shadows https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32733.msg413573#msg413573
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2011, 03:05:01 am »
Having 6 vampires, a vampire stilleto, and 3 liquid shadows is wholly unnecessary. Especially if you only have 3 cards to play the liquid shadows on. Add some PC and CC.
this deck is ment to heal itself.
Either way, 3 liquid shadows for 3 black dragons is unnecessary. 6 vampires and a vampire stiletto is more than enough healing for you.
i like healing ok.

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Re: Vampiric shadows https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32733.msg413606#msg413606
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2011, 04:47:08 am »
jesus dude take some criticism. you act the same in every single thread; people are trying to help you and you act like theyve called you an asshole

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Re: Vampiric shadows https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32733.msg413880#msg413880
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2011, 08:57:50 pm »
jesus dude take some criticism. you act the same in every single thread; people are trying to help you and you act like theyve called you an asshole
soryy i don't mean to come out that way thanks for telling me thats how im comeing out. thx!

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Re: Vampiric shadows https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32733.msg419386#msg419386
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2011, 12:03:48 pm »
I think the point of the extra heals was to just ensure em's. If that is the case then by all means its not completely unnecessary. Who doesn't like to get EM's when having fun just playing a deck xD.

Although it was good criticism and all saying it was wholly unneeded was like saying Life steal beyond vampires is a waste so don't add liquid shadows. I personally like the deck as it is and I think it was intriguing in the idea of the extra heals. I haven't noticed anyone else do it yet. Instead of saying it not needed and trashing the idea of an extra heal is like saying your mono life with 4 heals doesnt need a couple sogs. Nothing wrong with the idea and I admire the fact that someone enjoys getting ems rather than just farming speed decks all day long. Either case I leave my point as follows. Saying a deck has too much heal when its doing enough damage and instead of saying "not bad maybe try this instead" is rude in its own.

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Re: Vampiric shadows https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32733.msg420011#msg420011
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2011, 08:55:04 pm »
I think the point of the extra heals was to just ensure em's. If that is the case then by all means its not completely unnecessary. Who doesn't like to get EM's when having fun just playing a deck xD.

Although it was good criticism and all saying it was wholly unneeded was like saying Life steal beyond vampires is a waste so don't add liquid shadows. I personally like the deck as it is and I think it was intriguing in the idea of the extra heals. I haven't noticed anyone else do it yet. Instead of saying it not needed and trashing the idea of an extra heal is like saying your mono life with 4 heals doesnt need a couple sogs. Nothing wrong with the idea and I admire the fact that someone enjoys getting ems rather than just farming speed decks all day long. Either case I leave my point as follows. Saying a deck has too much heal when its doing enough damage and instead of saying "not bad maybe try this instead" is rude in its own.
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Re: Vampiric shadows https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32733.msg452043#msg452043
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2012, 10:21:16 pm »
***TRIALS RESPONSE***

The first thing I noticed about this deck was that the combo it is built around is fairly unlikely to be drawn. Also, having damage done solely by Minor Vampires makes the deck rather slow, giving you more time to be overwhelmed.

The quanta balance is surprisingly good (it has a near-perfect QI of 4.55), so kudos for that.

This is what I am suggesting:

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The first thing you'll notice is that I got rid of the Minor Vampires. Reason being, they're slow and unnecessary considering the large amounts of healing you're already getting from the dragons.

The next thing you'll notice is that I added Steals. Why? To deal with various threats from the enemy, including shields that block your dragons, Sanctuary, Sundial, weapons like Owl's Eye, and so much more.

I added three more dragons. This gives you a much higher chance of pulling off the combo, and deals more damage than Minor Vampires. I kept the amount of Liquid Shadows low, because they are only needed later in the game.

Finally, I replaced half the pillars with pendulums. This is largely optional, but it does help against Earthquakes by splitting pillars and pendulums into different stacks. The deck now uses slightly more quanta (a QI of 4.8), but that is okay, because it is relatively slow.

Overall, I believe my suggestions improve the deck somewhat, although your deck is surprisingly better than I thought it would be when I started writing this. Well done!
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