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Re: 800-1300elec. A13 grinder 95%+ win rate! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30614.msg427716#msg427716
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2011, 09:49:20 am »
Nice deck.

I've had slightly different results...I now keep track of stuff on a spreadsheet. I nearly quit Elements before finding this forum and the resources it had. So I
made an alt and built a close variant to this deck.  My results:

wins: 838 / losses: 162

86% Win rate. After 1000 battles, you'll probably amass $22,035 electrum -- give or take. Should be enough to build RoL/Hope, a Lava Rush (i used a variant of Plastiq's) and most of LiquiMatter.

  This deck woops A13 ass! average game time is about 6-8 turns. Firefly rushes take longer,- longest game was 12 turns. shortest was 5.
More like 10 or 11 turns. Quanta denial takes time. Fastest grinder I've played is Lava Rush. Unupped (+1 Arsenic -1 short sword; -1 Fire Eater +1 Deflag).
Six to eight turns is more like Mono Death Rush (Poison, Mummies, Arsenic). Six for Mono Darkness Denial is on a good day -- with a Nymph or so as your Oracle pet, and a God Hand. Eight turns is fast.

20% of your wins will be quantam control. Use steal agaisnt annoying weapons/shields.
The other 80% is with Steal, Liquid Shadow and Dragons. Steal wins games. Aside from that, you may remove a shield and a pillar for two Liquid Shadows. That'll answer an early Oty, Pharoah or FFQ. As for scarabs and RoF, try Earth mark and burrow.

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Re: 800-1300elec. A13 grinder 95%+ win rate! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30614.msg438264#msg438264
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2011, 06:53:12 pm »
This a very nice deck. I sometimes even EM with it. But i have a quetion. Starting with this deck ... what additions should i make in order to have a Bronze Arena deck to farm some rares? I am a very new player and i don't have any uped cards or rares ones. Thank you in advance.

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Re: 800-1300elec. A13 grinder 95%+ win rate! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30614.msg438289#msg438289
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2011, 07:57:36 pm »
I think this is good to farm bronze, maybe -2 mantle +2 steal because of the awesome number of monoaether in bronze..
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Re: 800-1300elec. A13 grinder 95%+ win rate! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30614.msg452010#msg452010
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2012, 09:02:19 pm »
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This is quite similar to some unupped darkness decks that I've used, always with great success. There are only some very minor changes that I would like to see made to this deck.

Firstly, although I usually like to insist on decks being 30 cards, this seems to operate quite well with 32. If you would like to slim it down to 30 cards, I would recommend removing the Vampire Stiletto and possibly one Drain Life, although I do feel like 32 cards is perfectly fine in this case.

Secondly, I'd like to see one drain life replaced by a steal. With only 2 in a 32 card deck, you'll have trouble really getting around Dim Shield chains, which the Aether elder can pull off. Having 3 steals may not seem like such a significant change, but it will greatly increase your chances of drawing them when you need them (drawing them an average of every 8 turns instead of 11 makes quite a difference).

Thirdly, and this is very minor, switch out six or seven of your 13 pillars into darkness pendulums - this will slightly improve your chances against earthquake, which one of the elders uses.

Finally, you may want to try and add in some nightfalls. The +1|+1 effect will multiply as you put out more creatures, and this can quite easily turn into a +6|+6 blanket effect quite quickly. I'm avoiding doing so in the final product because I don't want to trade anything out for it, and the deck is big enough as is, but you may want to try -1 Stiletto, -1 Drain Life, +2 Nightfall

After making these changes, you should hopefully see some slightly improved results (but I may be wrong!).

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Re: 800-1300elec. A13 grinder 95%+ win rate! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30614.msg452090#msg452090
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2012, 11:48:33 pm »
I've actually been running a similar deck lately, with a few upgrades...

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Upping Towers/Pends will get your Devourer's out faster and sometimes on turn one! :)

If you don't have the Nymph, drop one (steal, Dusk Mantle OR Nightfall) and add two Liquid Shadows.

Really does well vs AI3 and is very fun to play.

yeah, I'm sure there could be some improvements but I'm having fun with it... ;)

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Re: 800-1300elec. A13 grinder 95%+ win rate! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30614.msg472450#msg472450
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2012, 12:36:35 am »
I've actually been running a similar deck lately, with a few upgrades...

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QI: 5.62

Upping Towers/Pends will get your Devourer's out faster and sometimes on turn one! :)

If you don't have the Nymph, drop one (steal, Dusk Mantle OR Nightfall) and add two Liquid Shadows.

Really does well vs AI3 and is very fun to play.

yeah, I'm sure there could be some improvements but I'm having fun with it... ;)
I've been using a fully upped version similar to your list for grinding thru Bronze .

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I have 1 Black Nymph , but I haven't tested it in my list . I'm going to test +1 Nymph -1 Improved Steal and get back to you .

I don't run Eclipse because I run Drain's 3 and 4 in that spot to combat the Nova Rush and Golem/Destroyer decks that I commonly meet in the arena . The extra Siphons buy time for me much the same way your Dusk's do for you .

I run a 5th Steal , and honestly I wish I could run the 6th , but there isn't room in my build for it .

Finally , I run the exact same quantum base as you , and I feel its the correct amount . I rarely start with 1 Tower hands , and even when I do the deck can pull out of it is you have a turn 2 Pest .

I used to use the same list unupped for AI3 with the following mod

-1 Steal : +1 Dusk Mantle

I have to note that the unupped list got me the 10k and Lobotomizers  I needed to build RoL/Hope , which is what I used to fully up my  :darkness AI3 list into a Bronze grinder =] to get the SoR I needed to switch to Instosis .

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Re: 800-1300elec. A13 grinder 95%+ win rate! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30614.msg472512#msg472512
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2012, 03:38:01 am »
What's the point of the nymph? Liquid shadowing your dragons? I think it'd be too expensive and slow to be useful.

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Re: 800-1300elec. A13 grinder 95%+ win rate! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30614.msg516865#msg516865
« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2012, 02:34:08 am »
I use 3 dragons and 3 Vamps cuz I like winning with all my HP 100/100

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I find this works great for AI3 but it's tough vs HB.
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